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W12 17 Feb 20 4.37am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The reason the BBC is going to fall is precisely because of people like WE.

The BBC isn't what he claims it is. It isn't objective and it isn't balanced.

Many of its ex employees make a mockery of what he says.

A form of much reduced and de-fanged BBC will be the end result before Boris leaves office.

But it doesn't really matter does it, the left destroyed a once loved institution, like they fecking destroy everything and now Boris is driving the train that's going to put it out of its current misery.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Feb 2020 11.48pm)

In some ways this government seems a little more red pilled than I had expected. We need a short and brutal march through the institutions to redress some balance and what better place to start than the BBC.

 

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Originally posted by W12

In some ways this government seems a little more red pilled than I had expected. We need a short and brutal march through the institutions to redress some balance and what better place to start than the BBC.

Precisely.

We will see just how committed Johnson is to this over the next couple of years.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Feb 20 7.42am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Dropping all music channels mustn't happen. Radio 1, fair enough, the (multiple) commercial stations cover that content. But there are not many alternative music stations. How would people get to discover Jazz, for example? Or folk music? Or Heavy Metal, Big Band, Classical, and etc. The BBC do a pretty decent job of airing a variety of different musical genres.

Out of interest, what's the difference between an owner with an agenda and a director with an agenda?

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (16 Feb 2020 10.52pm)

That is my point whether the BBC means to or maybe it just happens they have strangled niche radio stations. Commercial radio / local radio / community radio all rely on advertising but as they struggle to get decent audience figures they don't get it. There are some good examples Classic FM and Scala for instance.

I have no problem with the BBC having one alternate music station that covered multiple genre's but they need to withdraw from local radio or go commercial. John Gaunt presented a daytime show on Talksport he told the listeners he was paid double his current fee when he was a presenter on BBC local radio, that is how they strangle the competition.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Feb 2020 7.43am)

 


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Once again the BBC shows it's tolerance this time to a former player commentating on a game.

During the broadcast, Ramage, who the BBC confirmed would no longer work with the corporation, said: "When I look at certain players, their body language, their stance, the way they act, you just feel, hold on a minute, he needs pulling down a peg or two.

"So I'd probably say that about all the young black lads, all the young advice if they wanted it, that, you know, it's about, when you are struggling for form, you are going through a sticky patch, it's about going back to basics, working hard, and doing the right things."

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Ramage immediately apologised.

""Ramage's full apology said: "I wish to apologise unreservedly for a comment that I made after yesterday's game.

"What I said was wholly inappropriate and unintentional. Race is irrelevant to the issues that I was discussing and I deeply regret what I said. I sincerely hope that the players accept my apology.

"I would like to reiterate my heartfelt apology not only to the players but also the fans that have listened to me over the past seven years and also to those that followed me throughout my career.

"I would like to reinforce that this error in no way reflects my personal views.""

But apparently it is never enough to apologise so the BBC is happy to work with people who break the law e.g. convicted killers and drug offenders because they have done their time but one word out of place during a live broadcast and you are toast.

And if you read what Ramage said it is literally one word "black" I think most of us would agree with the rest of his comments that some young players regardless of race get big headed and forget the basics.

Still in BBC land tolerance never extends to racial slip of the tongues and apologies do not count.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Feb 2020 7.58am)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 20 10.37am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

"The BBC isn't what he claims it is. It isn't objective and it isn't balanced"

As I have said many times what is objective and balanced always depends on where you stand politically.

Standing way out on the right ensures that your perception of where the balance point is won't be where others, with less extreme viewpoints, see it.

Standing on the far left produces exactly the same problem.

So such whilst such views cannot be ignored neither must they be allowed to determine how the BBC itself makes it's determinations. It must be allowed to do so free of political interference from any and all quarters.

People with strong political views, both from the left and the right, are never likely to be happy with the BBC and that's not just par for the course. It's probably also a good thing as it demands constant critical analysis and any necessary adjustments.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Feb 20 10.51am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

"The BBC isn't what he claims it is. It isn't objective and it isn't balanced"

As I have said many times what is objective and balanced always depends on where you stand politically.

Standing way out on the right ensures that your perception of where the balance point is won't be where others, with less extreme viewpoints, see it.

Standing on the far left produces exactly the same problem.

So such whilst such views cannot be ignored neither must they be allowed to determine how the BBC itself makes it's determinations. It must be allowed to do so free of political interference from any and all quarters.

People with strong political views, both from the left and the right, are never likely to be happy with the BBC and that's not just par for the course. It's probably also a good thing as it demands constant critical analysis and any necessary adjustments.

Being objective cannot depend on where you stand politically by the very nature and definition of objectivity.
Being balanced means, politically, you have to give equal time to all political opinions. Since the BBC demonises any right wing thinking, then it also clearly isn't balanced.

 


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.TUX. Flag 17 Feb 20 11.16am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Being objective cannot depend on where you stand politically by the very nature and definition of objectivity.
Being balanced means, politically, you have to give equal time to all political opinions. Since the BBC demonises any right wing thinking, then it also clearly isn't balanced.

You'll be here forever trying to convince him.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Feb 20 11.25am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

"The BBC isn't what he claims it is. It isn't objective and it isn't balanced"

As I have said many times what is objective and balanced always depends on where you stand politically.

Standing way out on the right ensures that your perception of where the balance point is won't be where others, with less extreme viewpoints, see it.

Standing on the far left produces exactly the same problem.

So such whilst such views cannot be ignored neither must they be allowed to determine how the BBC itself makes it's determinations. It must be allowed to do so free of political interference from any and all quarters.

People with strong political views, both from the left and the right, are never likely to be happy with the BBC and that's not just par for the course. It's probably also a good thing as it demands constant critical analysis and any necessary adjustments.

The whole media is infested with 'progressives' and Lefties. How blind must you be if you fail to see that?

Saying that it depends on your point of view is a disingenuous argument.
Why don't you back it up with some examples?

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

Being objective cannot depend on where you stand politically by the very nature and definition of objectivity.
Being balanced means, politically, you have to give equal time to all political opinions. Since the BBC demonises any right wing thinking, then it also clearly isn't balanced.

If the BBC is so unbiased why is it that the left defend it to the hilt whilst the right complain of bias. That suggests that this is some form of bias.

 


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Here is a race baiting story from the BBC - quelle surprise.

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A student visa became life. And on return 'home' to Africa the street food made it all worthwhile. When sick they considered getting free treatment in the UK - like many others apparently. And considered getting free Western education for all the children. Luckily Africa was miles better - as we all know Sierra Leone is a lovely, street food vibe, kind of hipster place the BBC would love.
I guess any asylum seekers from there should also be considered illegal and immediately deported, as apparently, everyone is celebrating local culture and having a great time. All from this fact based and objective article, with no agenda whatsoever.

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

Here is a race baiting story from the BBC - quelle surprise.

[Link]

A student visa became life. And on return 'home' to Africa the street food made it all worthwhile. When sick they considered getting free treatment in the UK - like many others apparently. And considered getting free Western education for all the children. Luckily Africa was miles better - as we all know Sierra Leone is a lovely, street food vibe, kind of hipster place the BBC would love.
I guess any asylum seekers from there should also be considered illegal and immediately deported, as apparently, everyone is celebrating local culture and having a great time. All from this fact based and objective article, with no agenda whatsoever.

Hey don't knock it I hear that many African countries are on the brink of becoming Wakanda so good luck to them and no need to leave of course, I mean why would you leave paradise.

 


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W12 18 Feb 20 9.34am

I'm now strongly of the opinion that many advocates of "free speech" in the public sphere are getting in the way or worse. Podcasts like "Spiked", "Triggernometry" and "London Calling" with their catchy theme tunes and never ending discussions of "woke" culture like at the BBC simply do not accurately represent the dark path our society has taken and the threat we are currently facing. This culture has already produced a huge number of real victims and you won't find them discussing things like the rape gangs or drawing a red line between the huge increase in volient crime and mass immigration or highlighting the issue of demographic change etc.

 

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