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 steeleye20  Croydon 14 Aug 19 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
I just post all of the polls really Just in jest ok I wouldn't even mention the word brexit round here.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 14 Aug 19 6.49pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'Turkish army pension fund set to buy British Steel'. So we leave the EU because we don't want them let in, and now we let them in ourselves !!!!!!! 'Brexit means brexit' - funny how you don't hear that anymore...... Turkey is not in the EU
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 becky over the moon 14 Aug 19 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have not heard any genuine expert in favour of an exit without a deal. The only ones in favour are politicians, most of whom admit making a deal is desirable but only on their terms. But according to your oft repeated statement, the politicians are the very people who are elected to do what's best for the country - ergo if they want to leave (with or without) then that must be the better thing for the country than remaining as the 'experts' want. Surely that's the whole point of democracy, as you keep telling us - politicians doing what is right.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 19 8.08pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
I agree. The thought that MPs are there to serve the people is blatantly not the case. They are there to forward their own agenda and interests. That's wrong. MP's are put there to serve the country by deciding what they believe to be in the country's best interests. If you believe that they don't do that and instead "forward their own agenda and interests" then the answer is in your own hands. Either vote them out at the next GE or, if their actions are really bad, organise a recall petition and a new election. You might disagree with the majority but that doesn't mean they haven't done what their conscience dictates they must do. Some know that as a consequence their livelihood is under threat and some are restrained in speaking their minds because of that threat.
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Aug 19 8.09pm |
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[quote=Tim Gypsy Hill '64;3466747] Turkey is not in the EU I don't normally agree with Steeleye but I think he knew that
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 19 8.11pm |
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Originally posted by becky
But according to your oft repeated statement, the politicians are the very people who are elected to do what's best for the country - ergo if they want to leave (with or without) then that must be the better thing for the country than remaining as the 'experts' want. Surely that's the whole point of democracy, as you keep telling us - politicians doing what is right. Of course, but there happen to be more that disagree. That's democracy.
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Aug 19 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Look it up what's your problem. My problem is when a Brexit supporting poster quotes a statement/article which is pro-leave/ anti-EU, they are asked to supply a link by Remain supporting posters (what is good for the goose and all that)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Aug 19 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
My problem is when a Brexit supporting poster quotes a statement/article which is pro-leave/ anti-EU, they are asked to supply a link by Remain supporting posters (what is good for the goose and all that) I couldn't make a link from the page. If you type in 'Turkish army pension fund' then take the BBC website option it is in front of you, ok? Regards
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| Invalid user 2019 14 Aug 19 11.19pm |
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How this might all pan out [Link]
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Aug 19 8.44am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No deal and possibly a general election straight after....scrummy. Things are going well. I hope you are right but until it happens I wont believe it. The establishment have many tools and allies to stop it they have already started a legal challenge.
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| dannyboy1978 15 Aug 19 9.34am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You know I’ve been saying Brexit will result in the US and others forcing us to reduce food standards and give private companies the more lucrative areas of the NHS? Well, the first is getting ever closer. That story is getting borring. I bet loads of people wash their fruit under the tap before they eat it, common sence tells You to. Secondly I'll bet my house most of the remoaners that have been to the U.S. have eaten chicken and none have questioned if it's been washed. The remoaners are really clutching at straws, but I guess they Can enjoy their throat killed chicken that's had a song played to it, nope nothing wrong with that is there. And in any case if your really worried about EU standards.
Edited by dannyboy1978 (15 Aug 2019 9.46am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Aug 19 10.04am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You know I’ve been saying Brexit will result in the US and others forcing us to reduce food standards and give private companies the more lucrative areas of the NHS? Well, the first is getting ever closer. Chlorine wash chicken is just an excuse the EU has used to protect it's farmers. The EU report clearly stated there was no problem with a chlorine wash which is used in pre packed salads. However its did state that use of it "might" lead to a lowering of compliance to health standards. In other words the abettor workers might get lazy and not do their job properly. Well you could say that about anything. In any case we do not have to sign a trade deal with the US if we don't want to. We have managed to trade with the US so far without one. Part of taking back control is for Parliament to make these decisions.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 15 Aug 19 10.19am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Corbyn announces plan for caretaker government. However the Lib Dems have already turned him down. He may just may get enough votes to win a no confidence vote but judging by the reaction of some of the other parties he won't have enough to form a government. Once again this parliament is showing its against everything and for nothing. Provided it is for a short time I think that is quite reasonable from JC. But any hint of unity over brexit is shot down immediately, it has no chance. Every MP has his/her own brexit and they are not budging, it is like 650 dictators. Even Her Majesties broadcast for unity bombed. You know what I think, scrap it before there is civil war.
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| chris123 hove actually 15 Aug 19 10.37am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Chlorine wash chicken is just an excuse the EU has used to protect it's farmers. The EU report clearly stated there was no problem with a chlorine wash which is used in pre packed salads. However its did state that use of it "might" lead to a lowering of compliance to health standards. In other words the abettor workers might get lazy and not do their job properly. Well you could say that about anything. In any case we do not have to sign a trade deal with the US if we don't want to. We have managed to trade with the US so far without one. Part of taking back control is for Parliament to make these decisions. It's funny how some can only see problems without solutions. How do they operate in business I wonder.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Aug 19 10.46am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Provided it is for a short time I think that is quite reasonable from JC. Every MP has his/her own brexit and they are not budging, it is like 650 dictators. Even Her Majesties broadcast for unity bombed. You know what I think, scrap it before there is civil war.
In principle there is nothing wrong in what he is suggesting. However there is a big difference in winning a no confidence motion in a Johnson government and then winning a confidence motion for a new Corbyn government. This current parliament has parallels with the one that Cromwell threw out my own preference is to call a GE after we have left.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 15 Aug 19 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
In principle there is nothing wrong in what he is suggesting. However there is a big difference in winning a no confidence motion in a Johnson government and then winning a confidence motion for a new Corbyn government. This current parliament has parallels with the one that Cromwell threw out my own preference is to call a GE after we have left. B you are just like they are !
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| Spiderman Horsham 15 Aug 19 11.29am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You know I’ve been saying Brexit will result in the US and others forcing us to reduce food standards and give private companies the more lucrative areas of the NHS? Well, the first is getting ever closer. Have you any comment on the link I posted regarding the chlorinated salad and vegetables we import from the EU?
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