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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Aug 19 1.07pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You ought never to make judgements which will affect future generations on cyclical ups and downs, which the building industry is particularly affected by.

Leaving the EU will not only have a short term impact it will inflict long term damage to the UK, it's position in the world and our consequent economic prosperity. A true judgement won't be possible for 20 to 30 years from now during which time I see the UK breaking up with Scotland re-joining and enjoying significant economic success relative to England and Wales. I see the fight for a united Ireland resuming in earnest and a much greater probability of that happening as Eire will look a better prospect than England as an economy.

England will have no obvious role. It's financial services sector will largely emigrate to France and Germany. Back office functions to Scotland and Ireland. Manufacturing has already fled. Our innovators will still innovate but unless we become a low wage economy their products will not be made here. Do we really want to be a low wage economy?

We ought to remain a member but at the very least we need to remain, via a deal, aligned in the closest way possible to EU standards and no tariff barriers.

Those arguing we jump off the cliff edge with their eyes shut and their pockets full of nothing but optimism are nothing less than either stubborn donkeys or political opportunists willing to sacrifice their country for personal ambition.

This is why Parliament must, and I trust will, act to stop Bogus Johnson.

Great start to the week. This post is probably going to be the most ludicrous thing I read this week. Thanks for cheering me up !!!

 


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craig321 Flag West Wickham 19 Aug 19 1.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You ought never to make judgements which will affect future generations on cyclical ups and downs, which the building industry is particularly affected by.

Leaving the EU will not only have a short term impact it will inflict long term damage to the UK, it's position in the world and our consequent economic prosperity. A true judgement won't be possible for 20 to 30 years from now during which time I see the UK breaking up with Scotland re-joining and enjoying significant economic success relative to England and Wales. I see the fight for a united Ireland resuming in earnest and a much greater probability of that happening as Eire will look a better prospect than England as an economy.

England will have no obvious role. It's financial services sector will largely emigrate to France and Germany. Back office functions to Scotland and Ireland. Manufacturing has already fled. Our innovators will still innovate but unless we become a low wage economy their products will not be made here. Do we really want to be a low wage economy?

We ought to remain a member but at the very least we need to remain, via a deal, aligned in the closest way possible to EU standards and no tariff barriers.

Those arguing we jump off the cliff edge with their eyes shut and their pockets full of nothing but optimism are nothing less than either stubborn donkeys or political opportunists willing to sacrifice their country for personal ambition.

This is why Parliament must, and I trust will, act to stop Bogus Johnson.

Not being funny mate but that's your view and good luck to you. You sound just like my old boss and he was wrong. Nobody can predict whats whot next week let alone 30 years so why worry about it? Seems a bit silly to me as the EU might not even exiist by then and France Germany etc might have had enough of it and f***ed off too.

Not being funny your probably a top bloke but do you find telling others how to think has got them on your side? Another reason i'd change to vote Leave now is there's lots of people trying to make out leavers are thick we'll hang on, that's all my mates near enough and we keep the country going not the government. I admit I only went remain because I was scared of a recession feel lied to now these big wigs haven't a clue and have a cheek telling anyone they were wrong.

 

craig321 Flag West Wickham 19 Aug 19 1.28pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

Well done for going it alone and best of luck for your future.

Cheers we're doing well. Not as thick as I come across on hear. Been told to practice my reading and writing and this is good because my son can edit it with me later on and I'll learn from it. Also it's palace so holds.my interest.

Must be doing something right, got a daughter starting uni in September.

 

Lyons550 Flag Shirley 19 Aug 19 1.33pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

No sh** Sherlock. Jo Swinson is as mad as a box of frogs

[Would]

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Aug 19 1.37pm

Originally posted by craig321

Cheers we're doing well. Not as thick as I come across on hear. Been told to practice my reading and writing and this is good because my son can edit it with me later on and I'll learn from it. Also it's palace so holds.my interest.

Must be doing something right, got a daughter starting uni in September.

Good on you mate. I went to university as a mature student. You are never too old for education. I teach adults these days. Best of luck with your business.

 


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craig321 Flag West Wickham 19 Aug 19 1.42pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Good on you mate. I went to university as a mature student. You are never too old for education. I teach adults these days. Best of luck with your business.

Thank you, you too.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 19 Aug 19 1.49pm

Originally posted by craig321

Cheers we're doing well. Not as thick as I come across on hear. Been told to practice my reading and writing and this is good because my son can edit it with me later on and I'll learn from it. Also it's palace so holds.my interest.

Must be doing something right, got a daughter starting uni in September.

Ditto, I want to tip my hat as well. I was an terrible speller and it took work over years to improve on that.

If you'd allow me to give a tip, never allow auto-correct to re-write a word for you and instead look at the correction and apply it yourself. I remember that helping me a lot.

Kudos to you and your daughter.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Aug 2019 1.50pm)

 


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SpyroCrystal 19 Aug 19 1.53pm

LOL. It's true. Starting a job next week. If this academia no wonder there are so many younger people defending the EU and remain and the deceptions.

Originally posted by dollardays

This is like a highbrow 'dog ate my homework'. I like it!

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 19 Aug 19 2.02pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You ought never to make judgements which will affect future generations on cyclical ups and downs, which the building industry is particularly affected by.

Leaving the EU will not only have a short term impact it will inflict long term damage to the UK, it's position in the world and our consequent economic prosperity. A true judgement won't be possible for 20 to 30 years from now during which time I see the UK breaking up with Scotland re-joining and enjoying significant economic success relative to England and Wales. I see the fight for a united Ireland resuming in earnest and a much greater probability of that happening as Eire will look a better prospect than England as an economy.

England will have no obvious role. It's financial services sector will largely emigrate to France and Germany. Back office functions to Scotland and Ireland. Manufacturing has already fled. Our innovators will still innovate but unless we become a low wage economy their products will not be made here. Do we really want to be a low wage economy?

We ought to remain a member but at the very least we need to remain, via a deal, aligned in the closest way possible to EU standards and no tariff barriers.

Those arguing we jump off the cliff edge with their eyes shut and their pockets full of nothing but optimism are nothing less than either stubborn donkeys or political opportunists willing to sacrifice their country for personal ambition.

This is why Parliament must, and I trust will, act to stop Bogus Johnson.


Do you still persist with Prawn Cocktail as a starter? If so, can I recommend Garlic bread...its the future!

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 19 Aug 19 2.05pm

Originally posted by craig321

Cheers we're doing well. Not as thick as I come across on hear. Been told to practice my reading and writing and this is good because my son can edit it with me later on and I'll learn from it. Also it's palace so holds.my interest.

Must be doing something right, got a daughter starting uni in September.

Well done Craig that has truly brightened up my day

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Aug 19 2.13pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Great start to the week. This post is probably going to be the most ludicrous thing I read this week. Thanks for cheering me up !!!

Glad to be of help!

As 99% of everything I read from you is a load of tosh I don't regard your criticism very seriously.

Indeed I regard it as a solid confirmation that those who support a "no deal" exit have no idea what they are actually seeking. You are just another with a pocket full of optimism.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Aug 19 2.19pm

Originally posted by Lyons550


Do you still persist with Prawn Cocktail as a starter? If so, can I recommend Garlic bread...its the future!

No, I gave that up at the same time as Black Forest Gateau fell out of favour as a dessert.

I prefer all my courses to be served up with a large side of realism and not smothered in a sauce of untested recipes with fake claims and wishful thinking as the primary ingredients.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Aug 19 2.28pm

Originally posted by craig321

Not being funny mate but that's your view and good luck to you. You sound just like my old boss and he was wrong. Nobody can predict whats whot next week let alone 30 years so why worry about it? Seems a bit silly to me as the EU might not even exiist by then and France Germany etc might have had enough of it and f***ed off too.

Not being funny your probably a top bloke but do you find telling others how to think has got them on your side? Another reason i'd change to vote Leave now is there's lots of people trying to make out leavers are thick we'll hang on, that's all my mates near enough and we keep the country going not the government. I admit I only went remain because I was scared of a recession feel lied to now these big wigs haven't a clue and have a cheek telling anyone they were wrong.

That we can never see 100% of the future is obviously true but we can make judgements about what is most likely and make our plans based on them.

If you see black clouds on the horizon and know the wind is blowing that way you have good reason to expect some rain. That's why we do forecasts.

The same applies to Brexit. We shouldn't just hope. We need to listen to those who can make the forecasts and not just put on our swim ware in the hope that the wind changes.

I am not really trying to "get you on my side"! I am just trying to point out that your approach, whilst it is the one shared by many right now who are thoroughly tired of the whole thing and just want it over, isn't going to serve up the result the country needs. That is not your job. It's the job of Parliament to ensure we get what we need and not just what everyone wants.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 19 Aug 19 3.03pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That we can never see 100% of the future is obviously true but we can make judgements about what is most likely and make our plans based on them.

If you see black clouds on the horizon and know the wind is blowing that way you have good reason to expect some rain. That's why we do forecasts.

The same applies to Brexit. We shouldn't just hope. We need to listen to those who can make the forecasts and not just put on our swim ware in the hope that the wind changes.

I am not really trying to "get you on my side"! I am just trying to point out that your approach, whilst it is the one shared by many right now who are thoroughly tired of the whole thing and just want it over, isn't going to serve up the result the country needs. That is not your job. It's the job of Parliament to ensure we get what we need and not just what everyone wants.

'It's the job of Parliament to ensure we get what we need and not just what everyone wants'.

But the UK parliament has no power here, except the right to cancel.

The extension runs out soon and the EU becomes free of us !

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Aug 19 3.17pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The extension runs out soon and the EU becomes free of us !

And our donations to the cause don't forget

 

DANGERCLOSE Flag London 19 Aug 19 3.21pm

 

Lyons550 Flag Shirley 19 Aug 19 4.10pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, I gave that up at the same time as Black Forest Gateau fell out of favour as a dessert.

I prefer all my courses to be served up with a large side of realism and not smothered in a sauce of untested recipes with fake claims and wishful thinking as the primary ingredients.

At least the Avocado bathroom suite is back in fashion on a retro basis...if you stay still for long enough you will once again be ahead of the curve...even a broken clock is right twice a day! Keep the faith

Edited by Lyons550 (19 Aug 2019 4.11pm)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Aug 19 4.23pm

Originally posted by Lyons550



At least the Avocado bathroom suite is back in fashion on a retro basis...
if you stay still for long enough you will once again be ahead of the curve...even a broken clock is right twice a day! Keep the faith

Edited by Lyons550 (19 Aug 2019 4.11pm)

I got rid of mine last year just as someone told me they were coming back into fashion.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Aug 2019 4.25pm)

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cpfc_chap Flag koh samui 19 Aug 19 5.45pm

The EU here are missing a trick they should sort out a personal membership for UK citizens who want to remain and get the same perks as they had before! Not sure what the perks are mind!

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 19 Aug 19 6.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, I gave that up at the same time as Black Forest Gateau fell out of favour as a dessert.

I prefer all my courses to be served up with a large side of realism and not smothered in a sauce of untested recipes with fake claims and wishful thinking as the primary ingredients.

What? Fell out of fashion? Seemed popular enough the last time I took the wife out.
If you like fake claim and wishful thinking sauce it’s probably one of Heston Blumenthal’s best sellers.

 

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