Yes they should. But then 700,000 British citizens living or working abroad were blocked from being able to. The vast majority would have voted and would have voted Remain.

Add to that the 2 million who couldn't vote then but are now old enough. A huge majority would have voted remain if they follow the pattern of their slightly older peers.

So you do the sums. This is why the Brexit enthusiasts don't want another vote.

You say one or two million, I say you are wrong. Let's look again in October. The fallacy that if Brexit were stopped there would be mass riots is as nothing compared to the people's reaction to being manipulated into something that will massively damage their and their children's future.

Oh and say tata to the tartans, they are offski. BoJo will go down in history for many things, including breaking up the UK.

This just shows the ignorance pretty much everyone in this country/planet is displaying.
Everyone is in their little corner backing/fighting Brexit, like it's going to make such a massive difference. It won't. It will be a major struggle for a couple of years and that's it, until the forthcoming depression comes along, which no one will even notice until it happens.

My question would be this to the Brexiteers. If Bojo managed to get freedom of movement cancelled as his deal, would you all be happy with that?

We have politicians whose job is to be politicians. Just think about that. They have no skills apart from politics. The only thing they know is how to divide people by pitting them all against each other, whilst the super wealthy get what they want.

How many bankers were jailed from the calamity of 2008? How much tax has Facebook, Amazon, Starbucks paid? If the economy is recovering why are interest rates so low? why has the stock market dropped about 10% in 1 year?

I'm neither pro/against Brexit. What I'm for is issues being dealt with by politicians. I would be quite confident that if the Queen could dissolve Parliament, we would not notice the difference.

JWAY89 - good points!
Most of us have lost faith in Politicians now anyway - they have their uses but they are now limited in their ability to run the Country in my opinion.
Brexit needs to happen because that is what the vote says - if we had another one who knows?
I have friends who have changed their mind both ways but one thing that everyone agrees with - pretty much anyway - is that our politicians and the EU treat the rest of like idiots.
Boris may make some of them think again with this latest move!

Only people who had lived abroad for more than 15 years were not allowed to vote and one might argue why should anyone who had made their lives abroad have a voice in whether the country that they used to live in more than 15 years ago should stay in or leave the EU

That smacks of desperation

I wonder how that will work out once we have left the EU.

Scotland will leave the UK and join the EU thus necessitating a customs border between our two countries plus passport controls

Edited by Midlands Eagle (28 Aug 2019 1.28pm)

Nah. Everyone is. No matter what side you're on, no-one voted for this gargantuan clusterf***.

And if they did, I hope they get royally screwed over for the forseeable. The amount of assumed personal immunity to outcome that is eminating from fanatics on both sides (especially leavers) is moronic in the extreme.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

This move by Johnson is a direct threat to the supremacy Parliament holds over the the Executive.

As such I see it stiffening the resolve of those determined to avoid a no deal exit, especially those Tories who might have been fence sitting hoping it was all just a negotiating tactic by the PM.

Parliament WILL have it's say and it WILL retain control. If for any reason that appears to be genuinely threatened then we have a full blown constitutional crisis in prospect, the like of which we won't have witnessed in our lifetimes. The importance of which transcends all Brexit considerations.

A successful vote of no confidence now looks inevitable to me with sufficient common ground among it's backers for them to coalesce around a compromise candidate other than Corbyn. One way or another we are all going to find out whether the public really want to leave without a deal, continue to try to find that deal first or stay in.

A right wing coup of our democracy, led by someone who is simply pursing his own ambitions, won't be allowed to succeed.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

No, I was never motivated particularly by immigration - it's a handy hook to accuse Brexiteers with "Racism" (sigh), "Bigotry" (yawn) and "Xenophobia" (snore). Nor was it the strongest motivation for those that voted to leave. This is evidenced by probably the most accurate exit poll available, before the media hysteria and post-vote propaganda started ramping up:

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Well, apparently it was for a third but hey, a mere bagatelle.

I put this down to us not having had a war for a while. The Brits love a good battle and forget the pain that brings

There's little doubt it's one of the downsides....however vastly too fast EU expansion created a lop sided voting situation.....the UK only ever could win votes that Germany also wanted.....and a Europe controlled by Germany is kind of not what we signed up for anyway.

I have little doubt we will have another vote within five years, perhaps 'join' will win that....but I don't see the EU changing until the next collapse.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2019 2.24pm)

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Completely agree on most of this. The 'self serving' attitude on BOTH sides of the establishment is abhorrent, the one remaining thread of decency is to follow the peoples wishes (and by that I mean the majority of whom voted) after which I'll be happy for them all to be had up for treachery!

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