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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Oct 17 5.34pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

When you said you were in HR, I didn't realise you literally meant 'headhunting'.

He he.

He's got dandruff because he left his head and shoulders somewhere.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Oct 2017 5.35pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 5.50pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Until the kid finds out his parents gave him away.

How would you feel?

Sorry, I thought I had put that into my mail on this topic. The child is delighted to have so much attention and interacts happily both both the natural and adoptive parents. But then it's not unusual in that society and there is a far greater closeness anyway between cousins. Cousins, uncles and aunts often do a great deal of raising of the young. Some still live in longhouses so they are co-located in any case.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 Oct 17 5.59pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So being brought up by people other than your parents isn't a problem?

Have you had the look at the statistics on this?

It's a very real and painfully obvious problem.

Depends on who your parents are, if your dad is the kind of f**ktard who keeps having kids he doesn't want or can't afford, you might very well be better off raised by your aunt and uncle (who can't have kids and are desperate for a kid to raise).

Yeah, its going to come with problems. But that's life, everyone has assorted existential problems of belonging and being they have to resolve. Yeah so your biological father doesn't want you, your biological mother gave you up. That sucks. But you know what doesn't, those two people who raised you, and loved you as if you were their own child.

People who are adopted are often curious about their parents, and it weighs on them in life. But you know who almost all of them call mum and dad, the people who raised them, loved them and provided for them.

People suffer, no mistaking, but do they suffer more than if they'd been brought up by those parents who don't want them, or can't afford them, or can't raise them. I doubt it.

And the kind of problems that come from being in the foster and care system are a lot worse.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 6.28pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Sorry, I thought I had put that into my mail on this topic. The child is delighted to have so much attention and interacts happily both both the natural and adoptive parents. But then it's not unusual in that society and there is a far greater closeness anyway between cousins. Cousins, uncles and aunts often do a great deal of raising of the young. Some still live in longhouses so they are co-located in any case.

I bet there is.

 


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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 10 Oct 17 7.01pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Sorry, I thought I had put that into my mail on this topic. The child is delighted to have so much attention and interacts happily both both the natural and adoptive parents. But then it's not unusual in that society and there is a far greater closeness anyway between cousins. Cousins, uncles and aunts often do a great deal of raising of the young. Some still live in longhouses so they are co-located in any case.

Are you sure you didn't got to Norfolk,


 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 7.28pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

Are you sure you didn't got to Norfolk,


 

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View coulsdoneagle's Profile coulsdoneagle Flag London 10 Oct 17 7.51pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Don't know a single unplanned pregnancy from same sex couples. Almost every child is planned for and they parents have to go through stringent background checks and the like to adopt, which obviously failed in this instance. I'm sure the statistics for violent instances like this are far far higher in traditional families.

Children needing a traditional mother and father figure is a bullsh*t argument with no grounds. Children need two parents that love them and want he best for them regardless of the parents gender or sexuality.

Edited by coulsdoneagle (10 Oct 2017 9.45pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Oct 17 8.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Don't know a single unplanned pregnancy from same sex couples. Almost every child is planned for and they parents have to go through stringent background checks and the like to adopt, which obviously failed in this instance. I'm sure the statistics for violent instances like this are far far higher in same sex parents.

Children needing a traditional mother and father figure is a bullsh*t argument with no grounds. Children need two parents that love them and want he best for them regardless of the parents gender or sexuality.

I'm loving the typo.

I totally disagree with the first sentence of your second paragraph. There are statistics that show that the traditional model has better outcomes compared to any other known model.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Oct 17 8.38pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Don't know a single unplanned pregnancy from same sex couples. Almost every child is planned for and they parents have to go through stringent background checks and the like to adopt, which obviously failed in this instance. I'm sure the statistics for violent instances like this are far far higher in same sex parents.

Children needing a traditional mother and father figure is a bullsh*t argument with no grounds. Children need two parents that love them and want he best for them regardless of the parents gender or sexuality.

Where is your evidence for this?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 8.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm loving the typo.

I totally disagree with the first sentence of your second paragraph. There are statistics that show that the traditional model has better outcomes compared to any other known model.

Source please.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Oct 17 8.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Where is your evidence for this?

I posted a link earlier which was a synopsis of studies, some of which said there was no difference.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 8.55pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I posted a link earlier which was a synopsis of studies, some of which said there was no difference.

I can find three or four studies. They are split. The most negative one was sponsored by a US pro-life group. The most positive was an Australian study. I can see nothing substantive in the studies to date.

If there is a difference, as has been said before, other variables appear to be far more important.

 

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