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pssguy Flag 28 Jun 19 11.14am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


Since then it's been a roller coaster, but one which is now going up and shows no sign of plunging to the depths again. Someday we will slip into the Championship for a season or two. That's inevitable but the base we now have will enable us to recover. We may not yet be a big club but we are now one to be reckoned with. We are taken seriously and respected by others. To go from the bottom tier to being a regular member of the top one is quite an achievement. To do it without an infusion of unlimited funds from a super rich investor doubly so.

So those carping about what SP has overseen need to take a step back. You cannot please all the people all the time but this old supporter is pleased.

You are talking too much sense. Watch out for some moaner coming on saying 'Sell Johnny Byrne and we'll be out of the League never to return'

 

thechaddyboy Flag Peterborough 28 Jun 19 12.37pm

Originally posted by grumpymort


a) the guy is not advancing the club plus shown he sucks as main guy running stuff and why would you want him in their if you are a proper billionaire wanting to buy the club you wouldn't you want to own the thing not have someone holding a chunk of it.

b) he has lots of little companies setup which he then charges Palace fees to use them so he is taking money away the clear one most people have heard of is Smoke and Mirrors.

c) I have read all of the account details.

the guy is not even putting any of his own money into the club and look at commercial side it's poor yet he is suppose to be a top business man (look at West Ham owners that is proper business men)

he makes the same mistakes every year.

People need to quit with the whole saved the club rubbish a long time has passed now cant keep using that to defend his mistakes and lack of moving forward.

Edited by grumpymort (26 Jun 2019 11.17pm)

Yeah, lets get a billionaire in, no guarantee he'll invest anything other than the original stake though. No love for the club, we'd be no more than another investment, something to fill the w&*k bank with, "Oh, I own a Premier club".
Rather someone running the ship with genuine interest & a passion for the club as opposed to making a quick buck or looking Johnny big balls in front of the boardroom.

Having watched Palace since 73 I'll never forget how close we came to losing everything, to make light of the work that SP & Co did is ignorance, are you even Palace ?

 


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est1905 Flag 28 Jun 19 5.14pm

Originally posted by thechaddyboy

Yeah, lets get a billionaire in, no guarantee he'll invest anything other than the original stake though. No love for the club, we'd be no more than another investment, something to fill the w&*k bank with, "Oh, I own a Premier club".
Rather someone running the ship with genuine interest & a passion for the club as opposed to making a quick buck or looking Johnny big balls in front of the boardroom.

Having watched Palace since 73 I'll never forget how close we came to losing everything, to make light of the work that SP & Co did is ignorance, are you even Palace ?

Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
I actually agree with him. Parish did save the club, So did the 3 other investors and Lloyds who agreed to do a deal on the freehold of Selhurst Park (you might need reminding CPFC2010 had no interest in saving the club unless they could get their hands on Selhurst).
Since then the club have done very well. You could say we have been lucky (to have been promoted so quick) and even luckier (to have stayed up and thrived). But Parish has made mistakes. Big ones. And he repeats those mistakes which is unforgivable in the unforgiving world of football/business. Are we not allowed to critise him because he was a quarter of an investment group that managed to purchase something very very cheap that had the potential to be worth ten times what they paid and is now worth probably 100 times what they paid.
Maybe there should be a time limit. Will it be alright to criticise him in say 10 years? or 100 maybe? or never?
You need to grow up mate. We are all flawed, all of us. You, me AND Steve Parish.

 

zico murphy Flag woking 28 Jun 19 6.03pm

Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
I actually agree with him. Parish did save the club, So did the 3 other investors and Lloyds who agreed to do a deal on the freehold of Selhurst Park (you might need reminding CPFC2010 had no interest in saving the club unless they could get their hands on Selhurst).
Since then the club have done very well. You could say we have been lucky (to have been promoted so quick) and even luckier (to have stayed up and thrived). But Parish has made mistakes. Big ones. And he repeats those mistakes which is unforgivable in the unforgiving world of football/business. Are we not allowed to critise him because he was a quarter of an investment group that managed to purchase something very very cheap that had the potential to be worth ten times what they paid and is now worth probably 100 times what they paid.
Maybe there should be a time limit. Will it be alright to criticise him in say 10 years? or 100 maybe? or never?
You need to grow up mate. We are all flawed, all of us. You, me AND Steve Parish.

Your giving Parish no credit for the position we’re in which is our best ever, that’s just down to luck ? Yeah he’s made some mistakes, who doesn’t (I’m sure he’d probably do some things differently with the Benefit of hindsight). He’s the decision maker though and he doesn’t have the luxury of analysing from afar and offering opinions of how things could be done differently (like us fans). If your going to analyse his every mistake though you should also give credit where credits due. In my opinion if his stint as chairman was over today the history books would show him as our best ever chairman. I’m not saying people shouldn’t criticise him, nobody’s above criticism. I think it’s unfair though he’s criticised on every decision that doesn’t turn out to be for the best without balancing this with everything he gets right and my opinion he’s got far more right than wrong. like for instance getting the ground in the deal for the club which as Goldberg found out would’ve been a massive mistake not have insisted on this.

 

davehuggins Flag 28 Jun 19 6.32pm

Nicely put Zico, we are without doubt in a better position than ever before and SP has to take credit for that.

 

thechaddyboy Flag Peterborough 28 Jun 19 7.51pm

Originally posted by est1905

Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
I actually agree with him. Parish did save the club, So did the 3 other investors and Lloyds who agreed to do a deal on the freehold of Selhurst Park (you might need reminding CPFC2010 had no interest in saving the club unless they could get their hands on Selhurst).
Since then the club have done very well. You could say we have been lucky (to have been promoted so quick) and even luckier (to have stayed up and thrived). But Parish has made mistakes. Big ones. And he repeats those mistakes which is unforgivable in the unforgiving world of football/business. Are we not allowed to critise him because he was a quarter of an investment group that managed to purchase something very very cheap that had the potential to be worth ten times what they paid and is now worth probably 100 times what they paid.
Maybe there should be a time limit. Will it be alright to criticise him in say 10 years? or 100 maybe? or never?
You need to grow up mate. We are all flawed, all of us. You, me AND Steve Parish.

It was a gamble, regardless of what it cost them & what it may be worth today there wasn't anyone else breaking their necks to pull us out of the pit, yeah he's made mistakes but there's always a minority quick to throw him under the bus everytime someone with a few quid in their a*se pocket shows any interest.
We could be 'bigger', maybe with our own Mike Ashley or Arabic equivalent but at what cost, plenty of cash but unwilling to put any out in the transfer window.
We all want some level of success but not at the cost of boom & bust, I'll trade the misery of Goldberg & Jordan's occupation for the stability of Parish, even with his errors.

 


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PatrickA Flag London 28 Jun 19 9.48pm

The future direction of the club seems more uncertain than for a number of years.
There are rumours about the Americans wanting out (although nothing official) , it’s all gone quiet on the new stand which Steve P hoped would commence being built this summer.
AWB has been sold, rumours are that Zaha could follow him out and Hodgson, Luka and Benteke all have one year left on their contracts.
This all adds up to the feeling of uncertainty and Parish is normally a clear thinker who has a vision for the club which I hope hasn’t been sidetracked.
Let’s hope for some clarity in the coming weeks as all the speculation is not helpful for the club.

 

Petereagle Flag Brockley 29 Jun 19 12.59pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

The future direction of the club seems more uncertain than for a number of years.
There are rumours about the Americans wanting out (although nothing official) , it’s all gone quiet on the new stand which Steve P hoped would commence being built this summer.
AWB has been sold, rumours are that Zaha could follow him out and Hodgson, Luka and Benteke all have one year left on their contracts.
This all adds up to the feeling of uncertainty and Parish is normally a clear thinker who has a vision for the club which I hope hasn’t been sidetracked.
Let’s hope for some clarity in the coming weeks as all the speculation is not helpful for the club.

A very good post. The positive side of this is that Roy Hodgson is a good and good judge of players. It’s a dangerous time for the club if Zaha follows AWB out of the door, but as long as Hodgson and Parish keep their nerve as to which players come in to replace them, we should be OK....hopefully they can also bring in a few young players of PL quality to increase the depth of talent...A big ask and easy to get it wrong

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Jun 19 1.23pm

Originally posted by Petereagle

The positive side of this is that Roy Hodgson is a good and good judge of players

Excluding Sorloth I assume

 

Painter Flag Croydon 29 Jun 19 3.27pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Excluding Sorloth I assume

On the assumption he choose him, which is a popular theory by people with a grudge against Roy.

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 29 Jun 19 11.52pm

Originally posted by est1905

Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
I actually agree with him. Parish did save the club, So did the 3 other investors and Lloyds who agreed to do a deal on the freehold of Selhurst Park (you might need reminding CPFC2010 had no interest in saving the club unless they could get their hands on Selhurst).
Since then the club have done very well. You could say we have been lucky (to have been promoted so quick) and even luckier (to have stayed up and thrived). But Parish has made mistakes. Big ones. And he repeats those mistakes which is unforgivable in the unforgiving world of football/business. Are we not allowed to critise him because he was a quarter of an investment group that managed to purchase something very very cheap that had the potential to be worth ten times what they paid and is now worth probably 100 times what they paid.
Maybe there should be a time limit. Will it be alright to criticise him in say 10 years? or 100 maybe? or never?
You need to grow up mate. We are all flawed, all of us. You, me AND Steve Parish.

When SP and the remainder of the quartet acquired the club there was far more potential to slip into league one and as I recall we were bookies favourites for relegation the season we went up.

Every Chairman or CE makes bad decisions and SP’s good ones have hugely outweighed the bad. Eg buying Zaha rather than the Sh1t Pulis and his chronies would like to have saddled us with.

No one is beyond critcism but we have a simple choice as fans now whether we’d like a gamble on a foreign investor who could turn out to be anything or accept that the club be run as sustainable business by a fan but relegation will happen sooner rather than later.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (30 Jun 2019 12.09am)

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jun 19 6.01am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

When SP and the remainder of the quartet acquired the club there was far more potential to slip into league one and as I recall we were bookies favourites for relegation the season we went up.

Every Chairman or CE makes bad decisions and SP’s good ones have hugely outweighed the bad. Eg buying Zaha rather than the Sh1t Pulis and his chronies would like to have saddled us with.

No one is beyond critcism but we have a simple choice as fans now whether we’d like a gamble on a foreign investor who could turn out to be anything or accept that the club be run as sustainable business by a fan but relegation will happen sooner rather than later.


Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (30 Jun 2019 12.09am)

Yes, we were signing Adam Barrett etc when they bought the club.

Signing Zaha has been THE biggest master stroke. Not only has he played a big part in a handful of seasons but he’s a highly valued asset after all that as well. We’d be replacing Pulis’s players after 2-3 seasons but then I guess not purchasing Benteke or Sakho, if we survived to sign them. Parish’s mistakes are why we’re hamstrung right now. We’re very lucky we have AWB to sell, otherwise relegation is a bigger possibility, and/or selling Wilf more likely and sooner.

Like the current owners and US shareholders, we don’t get to choose who they are.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Jun 19 7.37am

Originally posted by Painter

On the assumption he choose him, which is a popular theory by people with a grudge against Roy.

I don't have a grudge against Roy, but Sorloth was down to him. I was told that at the time of him signing.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 30 Jun 19 8.40am

Originally posted by NEILLO


I don't have a grudge against Roy, but Sorloth was down to him. I was told that at the time of him signing.

Roy admitted it at the time that he had his eye on Sorloth for quite a while. I didn't respond to Painter as some things are just pointless

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 30 Jun 19 9.08am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes, we were signing Adam Barrett etc when they bought the club.

Signing Zaha has been THE biggest master stroke. Not only has he played a big part in a handful of seasons but he’s a highly valued asset after all that as well. We’d be replacing Pulis’s players after 2-3 seasons but then I guess not purchasing Benteke or Sakho, if we survived to sign them. Parish’s mistakes are why we’re hamstrung right now. We’re very lucky we have AWB to sell, otherwise relegation is a bigger possibility, and/or selling Wilf more likely and sooner.

Like the current owners and US shareholders, we don’t get to choose who they are.

Obviously we don’t get to choose. I was simply making the point that those are the two scenarios.

 

manwitheagletattoo Flag Somewhere in England 30 Jun 19 10.22am

Where are these stories coming from of a club take over. The comic Daily Star is reporting a mixed story on Zaha and a 220m Chinese take over can anyone enlighten me.

 


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est1905 Flag 30 Jun 19 5.56pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

When SP and the remainder of the quartet acquired the club there was far more potential to slip into league one and as I recall we were bookies favourites for relegation the season we went up.

Every Chairman or CE makes bad decisions and SP’s good ones have hugely outweighed the bad. Eg buying Zaha rather than the Sh1t Pulis and his chronies would like to have saddled us with.

No one is beyond critcism but we have a simple choice as fans now whether we’d like a gamble on a foreign investor who could turn out to be anything or accept that the club be run as sustainable business by a fan but relegation will happen sooner rather than later.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (30 Jun 2019 12.09am)

You make this statement like I disagree with you. I dont. You said yourself no one is above critisism which is all I said. Sounds like you are paying lip service with that comment as you then go on to defend his poor mistakes and make excuses for him.
It was fan pressure as much as anything else that brought Zaha back from United, but as usual lets give all the credit to he who can do no wrong, the great vulture face himself Steve Parish

 

Stirlingsays Flag 30 Jun 19 6.24pm

Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo

Where are these stories coming from of a club take over. The comic Daily Star is reporting a mixed story on Zaha and a 220m Chinese take over can anyone enlighten me.

I initially read that as a 220m Chinese take away.

Now those would be some impressive prawn balls.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Jun 19 6.49pm

Originally posted by davehuggins

Nicely put Zico, we are without doubt in a better position than ever before and SP has to take credit for that.

Does he?

The PL money means that there is less need to sell good players than ever before.
It is easier to compete with foreign clubs for players.

Parish and his pals bought the club for next to nothing.

We got very lucky having Zaha. Parish sold him.
We got unbelievably lucky to get him back.

We got lucky that Watford had an off day in the Play Off Final.

Holloway and Parish spends money on a lot of crap

Got lucky to find Pulis available. Parish fell out with him.

Neil Warnock. Didn't work.

Pardew. Did OK for a while, One cup final, which we lost to a poor Man U...Again. Should have been sacked earlier.

Then we got lucky to find Big Sam available. Not ambitious enough for him.

Brought in a complete weirdo that wanted to play expansive football despite not having the players to do it. Hopless thinking.

Roy. Steady and won't quit even when the board sells his best players.

What has Parish actually done?

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 30 Jun 19 7.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Does he?

The PL money means that there is less need to sell good players than ever before.
It is easier to compete with foreign clubs for players.

Parish and his pals bought the club for next to nothing.

We got very lucky having Zaha. Parish sold him.
We got unbelievably lucky to get him back.

We got lucky that Watford had an off day in the Play Off Final.

Holloway and Parish spends money on a lot of crap

Got lucky to find Pulis available. Parish fell out with him.

Neil Warnock. Didn't work.

Pardew. Did OK for a while, One cup final, which we lost to a poor Man U...Again. Should have been sacked earlier.

Then we got lucky to find Big Sam available. Not ambitious enough for him.

Brought in a complete weirdo that wanted to play expansive football despite not having the players to do it. Hopless thinking.

Roy. Steady and won't quit even when the board sells his best players.

What has Parish actually done?

Well to quote Napoleon Bonaparte!

 

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