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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 15 May 19 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When England won the world cup in 66 our leagues were full of British players. Our team in 70 was arguably stronger. Germany regularly win the world cup and have a majority German league system.

When the Premiership came in with all that money it claimed that this would improve the national side. The reality, if anything, has been the opposite.

The football money men benefited and the fan forked out a lot more from their working wages to pay for it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 May 2019 6.43am)

Unusually I have to disagree with you, the money has been pumped into better facilities, coaches and National Football centre all of which are now starting to bear fruit at Senior and junior levels. We've won more as a nation across all ages in the last 2 years then we have in the previous 40!

That, better facilities and far superior pitches are the few good things about the influx of money.

 


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Originally posted by dynamicdick

The one thing that intrigues me is what will Mr Sinatra take away from any likely Palace deal?...

It's a play thing, I wonder if the two players who are looking for moves will hang around if something mighty huge happens?

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When England won the world cup in 66 our leagues were full of British players. Our team in 70 was arguably stronger. Germany regularly win the world cup and have a majority German league system.

When the Premiership came in with all that money it claimed that this would improve the national side. The reality, if anything, has been the opposite.

The football money men benefited and the fan forked out a lot more from their working wages to pay for it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 May 2019 6.43am)



But in '62, '58 '54 and '50 our leagues were even more full of British players and we didnt win anything. Our premiership has reached a point where British players might not be the majority yet we reached a semi final and a bit unlucky not to go further. I dont think the number of nationals in your league means anything to be honest, if you are English and thrive in the premiership you have to be a proper quality player. You could argue that our standard of players are higher as a result...

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 15 May 19 1.55pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

Unusually I have to disagree with you, the money has been pumped into better facilities, coaches and National Football centre all of which are now starting to bear fruit at Senior and junior levels. We've won more as a nation across all ages in the last 2 years then we have in the previous 40!

That, better facilities and far superior pitches are the few good things about the influx of money.

Exactly.

The success at all levels lately is in a large part down to financial investment to improve infrastructure.

Like everything itís swings and roundabouts but I think we are finally seeing a generation of players come through that have benefitted from those improved facilities that the extra revenue paid for.

 


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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 15 May 19 2.23pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Having read up a BIT on him...

Suspect he's a bit autocratic as an owner and might find it hard not to sweat the small stuff. Amnesty says his anti drugs campaign led to the deaths of at least 1,000 innocents (as well as many guilty).

Reckon he's talking to the Americans, not SP, since they're the ones sounding out investors. That's a finer point missed by the Thai media.

Good chance he did a few of the things the junta alleged were an abuse of power (although perhaps not to the extent) but it's a junta doing the accusing and who knows the norms for wealthy, powerful individuals in Thailand? I don't.

If he came, I think he'd take great care to make the vibe seem good. He'd be using us in part to gain popularity in Thailand.


No change in style just like our current CEO!

 

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More from Bangkok Post. So is it all just paper talk?

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 16 May 19 5.05am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd



But in '62, '58 '54 and '50 our leagues were even more full of British players and we didnt win anything. Our premiership has reached a point where British players might not be the majority yet we reached a semi final and a bit unlucky not to go further. I dont think the number of nationals in your league means anything to be honest, if you are English and thrive in the premiership you have to be a proper quality player. You could argue that our standard of players are higher as a result...

Well, over the 12 years you mention we were still amongst the top teams in the world.....Whereas the Premier league has been going for 27 years and for most of them our performances have been woeful.....when we were promised an improvement: it was a promise built on warm words to justify what was really happening..

As for the semi final....we beat weak teams to get there and then lost to Croatia....a country with a population of what....around five million.

The Premiership has been nothing but a money spinner for money men and it's taken the top tier of football...the original working man's game away from many of them.

Saying that having a lesser pool of players to choose from is somehow better ignores the reality of what's happened in Germany......It also ignores how players of the past developed through the system....like Keegan for example.....Nowadays a Keegan wouldn't get to the Premiership until much later if not at all.

Today's method works against late developers, which is a significant number of footballers within any system.....there are too few Vardys.

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Originally posted by Lyons550

Unusually I have to disagree with you, the money has been pumped into better facilities, coaches and National Football centre all of which are now starting to bear fruit at Senior and junior levels. We've won more as a nation across all ages in the last 2 years then we have in the previous 40!

That, better facilities and far superior pitches are the few good things about the influx of money.


I would concede these points, youth performances have been encouraging.....is this more cyclical in nature though? Maybe, maybe not.

My moans are more holistic in nature......I'm on the side of it wasn't really worth it.....but then again, it would be better if I'm wrong and just being a curmudgeon because it isn't as though it's about to change.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 May 2019 6.26am)

 

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only caught the end of this discussion about why things are improving - money, infrastructure? I reckon grass roots football has changed - 'clear your lines and play your football in the final third' has given way to 'pass and move' at youth level and in the lower leagues - to cut a long story short I credit the change chiefly down to one man, fools may laugh: Arsene Wenger.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 16 May 19 7.47am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I think probably yes it is paper talk, but may well be a number of Takshin stories before the end of the year.

I shall wear a Palace shirt on arrival next Wednesday see if it gets a comment from Immigration


Originally posted by briandavis

More from Bangkok Post. So is it all just paper talk?

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Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 17 May 19 3.26am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

This seems to have gone away now

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 17 May 19 8.25am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by briandavis

More from Bangkok Post. So is it all just paper talk?

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Or is it all cleverly worded smoke and mirrors?

- Original reports say that Thaksin's 'agent' Miti has been having the discussions with the club on Thaksin's behalf.

- Denial is that the club has spoken with Thaksin.

Both statements could be true.

 

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