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PatrickA Flag London 04 Jul 20 6.08pm

Just watched Hodgson’s post match interview.
He said he thought Palace did well , the scoreline was harsh and he implied there was not much between the teams .
When asked about only one shot on target by Palace he said he’s always asked about this but to him shots on target are a meaningless statistic .
Maybe he’s always asked about it because it’s true and it’s the reason why we are near the bottom of all the teams in the league for goals scored and chances created.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jul 20 6.10pm

There are those who opine that Hodgson can only work with the squad he possesses and given that he has secured survival on a limited spend he should be applauded for his efforts.The football might be turgid but the end justifies the means.

There are others however who believe that a different manager with the same squad might actually play a different more exciting brand of football instead of the dross we have been witnessing of late.

When we grind out a turgid 1-0 victory the actual performance is often forgotten in the euphoria of the win.When we lose on the back of a similar performance the opprobrium is very evident.

 

gerry theagle Flag newbury 04 Jul 20 6.15pm

Hi Henry, can you really see Villa beating Liverpool, Man United, Everton, Arsenal and West Ham, ok and us.That would be escape of all time.

 

CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE Flag bloomfield 04 Jul 20 6.17pm

Roy going is not equivalent with FDB coming Fact is Roy is a luck of the draw manager whose squad output is less than the summ total of the talent he has Hence the narrow wins, narrow losses. Just remember this is an up or out league. Aiming at mid table as a strategy is the first step to relegation. Dont doubt me on this one folks. Respect RH and what he has done for us, but this does not justify accepting pending relegation and turpid uninspired football.

Originally posted by beak

I'm very hay with Roy as manager,are there fans who wished to stick with FDB ?

 

Beetle Flag Tooting 04 Jul 20 6.18pm

Originally posted by dazza


Not really defending just saying that Roy is working with what he’s got we’ve needed a strIker for some time and this didn’t materialise a new manager won’t necessarily be given any money to spend. So Roy has been able to keep us in mid table with no real funds over several seasons. It is boring and we do deserve better but sacking Roy won’t deliver that given the board will remain. Wolves have spent money over the last few seasons and are probably heavily in debt but for now their owners are happy to fund this but who wants to be Sunderland, Portsmouth, Wigan, Bolton etc in a few years. Next season will be a struggle without a few new players my only criticism of Roy is that when he has been given flair players they don’t seem to get a chance in the squad.

Oh come on how can you defend Roy & his tactics they are a disgrace. His subs are predictable and the last 2 games if we had a different approach could have won both games.

Even the players look did-interested.

Time to go we deserve more excitement & value for money than what we are getting.

Look at Wolves as an example go through the first 11 and look how much they have spent not to dis-similar to us yet have a manager that plays attacking football.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 04 Jul 20 6.23pm

Originally posted by Beetle

Roy’s not the problem, he’s not been given any funds for several seasons and we’ve been comfortable. The board should back him with some new players. Zaha wants to leave, but Palace have priced him out of the market. This season it’s been boring watching Palace but when I get my head right I recall losing at home to scunthorpe and Barnsley and suddenly things ain’t so bad. At least the board are being careful as surely no one wants administration again, but some excitement is needed. The sad thing is I didn’t go to the Watford game due to the drudgery of watching Palace this season, clearly with what has transpired since , I wish i had gone now.

Football without fans is actually ridiculous, I thought with the restart we might be a bit more exciting given we are virtually safe but apart from the Bournemouth game it’s the same old. That being said Palace being Palace are always liable to find a result against the so called top 6, but perhaps it’s best we don’t get the Europa league spots with the squad as is , as well as the fact no one will be able to go to the games if this behind closed doors continues.


He has been given funds the issue is he has no interest in being the person who is using them this is something he has said many times he lets others deal with all that sort of stuff what sort of manager does that terrible.

Sorloth - 8/12m with addons taking to to around 15m.

Koutate - 9/12m

Mccarthy - 3/5m

Ayew 3/5m

Jach 2/3m

Our home record is awful he has not even tried to change anything to solve this.

Zaha should be dropped again shows how weak Roy is he keeps selecting out of form players no one is bigger then the club he should be dropped to the bench try something different.

The club needs to move forward it's gone backwards just like the passing how trying to play the ball at the back slow is progress is just baffling and to not even bring in a bunch of coaches whats that about we are awful at set plays and cant even counter attack anymore this is the manager.

 


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Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 04 Jul 20 6.30pm

Originally posted by gerry theagle

Hi Henry, can you really see Villa beating Liverpool, Man United, Everton, Arsenal and West Ham, ok and us.That would be escape of all time.

Not really ... but teams make their own luck and ours is certainly out. I'd be more assured when Villa loses one more game.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Jul 20 6.37pm

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

I could see Roy leaving anyway if the squad is not seriously refreshed during the off season.

No creativity in midfield, which has been like that for a long time, and no regular threat up front.

We have signed some creative players, some on loan, but he refuses to play them. Could try a midfield with Jairo and Max, Pierrick up front would we do worse? And let’s not forget Camarasa who didn’t get a look in. Carassco who played and scored in CL Final not deemed good enough. Come on time has caught up with Roy

 

jammieroger Flag ASHFORD KENT 04 Jul 20 6.37pm

Never looked like getting into the game, love palace through and through but don't think I can watch the remaining games, we lost the game, but he puts the same sub players on, we've lost try something different, 5 subs allowed put the kids on be more daring Roy show some imagination... Please

 

Sthlondonuk Flag STH NORWOOD 04 Jul 20 6.39pm

Football is an entertainment business and at the moment there is no entertainment with Palace the players look tired and disinterested especially Zaha. As Warnock once said you need the ooos and ahhs with shots on goal to get the crowd interested and engaged. The entertainment that's served up now is almost non existent.
Whether or not people are allowed back next season remains to be seen but as a long term season ticket holder I'm not sure I can watch another season with such defensive tactics and Roy's reluctance to try anything different no matter who we are playing or what the score is.

 

HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 04 Jul 20 6.41pm

Yes, but upstairs as a DOF... then its "taxi time for Doug and Steve P!" We've had probably £1bn or more since we've been promoted and this is the type of performance we're served up week in week out...its a piss take, can't keep the ball, can't pass the ball, minimal shots on target, its bollox to be honest.

The other concern with these type of performances is the effect it has on the next generations of Palace fans..no wonder we see so many other shirts locally rather than ours.

Its time for a change as this s*** has gone on for too long.

 

palace chick Flag South Croydon 04 Jul 20 6.41pm

I think we are screwed - Hodgson with I guess 3 additions to the squad for next season will play the same way again and may just keep us up. However, I doubt looking at the way we are finishing this season that squad even with those additions will stay up. I’m fairly sure we are going down next season and we will be relegated by the time the Xmas decs come down. Reason I think we are screwed is because I don’t think anyone Replacing Hodgson can make this squad any better - we are doomed whatever we do I’m afraid. Unless we replace practically everyone and that won’t happen. I’m wondering if we should hand the reigns now to Cahill with perhaps Freedman as his number two and see how they can finish this season? If looking good then give it a go for next season? I just don’t think without a major overhaul anyone can keep us up :-(

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jul 20 6.46pm

I appreciate that emotions run high after an abject defeat but I do sense that there is a growing 'band' of supporters who believe that it is in the club's interest that Hodgson is not our manager next season.

The club has fairly recently offered Hodgson an extended contract which he has accepted and I cannot envisage a situation where he is relieved of his services before the start of next season.
He is seen as an experienced manager who has secured survival for the last two seasons on a limited budget and will do so again this campaign.

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Jul 20 6.54pm

Originally posted by Willo

I appreciate that emotions run high after an abject defeat but I do sense that there is a growing 'band' of supporters who believe that it is in the club's interest that Hodgson is not our manager next season.

The club has fairly recently offered Hodgson an extended contract which he has accepted and I cannot envisage a situation where he is relieved of his services before the start of next season.
He is seen as an experienced manager who has secured survival for the last two seasons on a limited budget and will do so again this campaign.

10th highest wage bill in the division. It’s not that limited.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jul 20 6.59pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

10th highest wage bill in the division. It’s not that limited.

I was making reference to the transfer spending whilst he has been at the helm.Hardly a lavish amount!
The club decides on the wage structure and the individual contracts.

 

PatrickA Flag London 04 Jul 20 7.05pm

I also doubt we’ll see a change of manager next season unless Hodgson decides to stand down.
My view on Hodgson is not based on the last three games which we’ve all lost without scoring.
He could equally point in response to the four games before that which we all won without conceding a goal.
My difficulty with him is that season I’ve only really enjoyed at home the Villa and Liverpool games during which we actually took the game to the opposition and played with some attacking intent and purpose.
I can’t prove it, but remain convinced that we could have at least as many points as we have now if we attacked teams more without the smothering rigid play and lack of flexibility that we witness most games.

 

Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 04 Jul 20 7.08pm

I wish an interviewer had asked Roy to explain his use of substitutes today.

We go 1 down: He subs a creative midfielder for a defensive midfielder

We are 2 down: He replaces a defender with Andros (hooray) and Benteke with a defender. So Andros has no target man to aim for.

Surely these tactics are from someone who has lost their marbles.

Today has put me in the 'Roy must go' camp.


 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 04 Jul 20 7.25pm

Originally posted by Willo

I appreciate that emotions run high after an abject defeat but I do sense that there is a growing 'band' of supporters who believe that it is in the club's interest that Hodgson is not our manager next season.

The club has fairly recently offered Hodgson an extended contract which he has accepted and I cannot envisage a situation where he is relieved of his services before the start of next season.
He is seen as an experienced manager who has secured survival for the last two seasons on a limited budget and will do so again this campaign.

This is why I am in the Roy remain camp.

Do I like his style, no. Do I even understand his decision making at times, no. Do I believe we’ll progress under Roy, please.

At the moment, we have no money to spend on transfers and a relegation worthy team.

I understand the appeal of being in the championship again if just to see us compete in games but would still prefer we stay up, just my personal preference not saying it’s right or wrong. Roy is probably our only bet, but even that’s not guaranteed. I would say however I think most seasons were a sure bet to go down.

Also, I can’t see many managers retaining the will to live let alone do the job for an entire season but RH will.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 04 Jul 20 7.28pm

Our play v Bournemouth must have been a mistake. We don't usually press so early in the game and certainly don't score any goals in the first half. Roy must have been furious and disciplined the team to get them back into line.

 


Denial is not just a river in Egypt

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Jul 20 7.29pm

Originally posted by Willo

I was making reference to the transfer spending whilst he has been at the helm.Hardly a lavish amount!
The club decides on the wage structure and the individual contracts.

Wage budget is far more indicative of squad quality, and the correlation between wage bill and league finish is far stronger than transfer spend/league finish.

 

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