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Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 10.07pm
Originally posted by palace_in_frogland Poland has a border with Kaliningrad, which is Russian Federation Territory. Not quite the same thing is it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 10.07pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

Poland has a border with Kaliningrad, which is Russian Federation Territory.

Not quite the same thing is it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 10.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Strangely, all I often think, when trying to follow your reasoning, is that it honks. Flies over your head as usual. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 10.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Strangely, all I often think, when trying to follow your reasoning, is that it honks.

Flies over your head as usual.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 10.14pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Simple. If true, and that's a big if seeing the source is the USA's version of the Daily Mail, then let it be presented in a court and due process decide. Funny how the lack of actual robust evidence never bothered you over Trump. Now it's just a matter for courts over Biden. So myopic. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 10.18pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 10.14pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Simple. If true, and that's a big if seeing the source is the USA's version of the Daily Mail, then let it be presented in a court and due process decide.

Funny how the lack of actual robust evidence never bothered you over Trump.

Now it's just a matter for courts over Biden.

So myopic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 10.18pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Teddy Eagle 14 Apr 22 10.14pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Simple. If true, and that's a big if seeing the source is the USA's version of the Daily Mail, then let it be presented in a court and due process decide. And let the Bidens sue the paper for printing false information.

Teddy Eagle

14 Apr 22 10.14pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Simple. If true, and that's a big if seeing the source is the USA's version of the Daily Mail, then let it be presented in a court and due process decide.

And let the Bidens sue the paper for printing false information.

BlueJay UK 14 Apr 22 11.11pm
One thing you can say for Le Pen is that at least compared to the status quo, she's big on peaceful protest and free speech - [Link]

BlueJay

UK 14 Apr 22 11.11pm

One thing you can say for Le Pen is that at least compared to the status quo, she's big on peaceful protest and free speech - [Link]

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 15 Apr 22 8.42am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays ? Neither Poland nor Romania are border countries. Both Poland and Romania border the Ukraine completely so if Ukraine falls to Russia as Putin wants then they are his immediate neighbours “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 15 Apr 22 8.42am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Neither Poland nor Romania are border countries.

Both Poland and Romania border the Ukraine completely so if Ukraine falls to Russia as Putin wants then they are his immediate neighbours

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 15 Apr 22 8.45am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays As a deterrent that theory has hardly been working has it. The US has been fighting some war or other for most of my life. But not a Nuclear one “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 15 Apr 22 8.45am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As a deterrent that theory has hardly been working has it. The US has been fighting some war or other for most of my life.

But not a Nuclear one

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 22 11.46am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Flies over your head as usual. Not at all. I just detect the stink of motivations which have nothing to do with those claimed. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 22 11.46am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Flies over your head as usual.

Not at all. I just detect the stink of motivations which have nothing to do with those claimed.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 22 11.55am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Funny how the lack of actual robust evidence never bothered you over Trump. Now it's just a matter for courts over Biden. So myopic. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 10.18pm) Plausible deniability and political expediency doesn't mean that no robust evidence exists. It just needs to be slowly, carefully and patiently drawn together and teased out of witnesses. The NY AJ holds the Mueller papers. The IRS hold Trump's tax returns. Affidavits might be resisted, but eventually will succeed. When the time is right, the fans will turn and the brown stuff will fly. Be sure of it. If anything real exists for Biden (and nothing on the same scale is remotely possible) then let due process deal with it. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (15 Apr 2022 11.55am) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 22 11.55am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Funny how the lack of actual robust evidence never bothered you over Trump.

Now it's just a matter for courts over Biden.

So myopic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 10.18pm)

Plausible deniability and political expediency doesn't mean that no robust evidence exists. It just needs to be slowly, carefully and patiently drawn together and teased out of witnesses. The NY AJ holds the Mueller papers. The IRS hold Trump's tax returns. Affidavits might be resisted, but eventually will succeed. When the time is right, the fans will turn and the brown stuff will fly. Be sure of it.

If anything real exists for Biden (and nothing on the same scale is remotely possible) then let due process deal with it.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (15 Apr 2022 11.55am)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 22 11.58am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And let the Bidens sue the paper for printing false information. That would be a political judgement for Biden. Would he want such a distraction? Maybe, but not while he is in office, I would think. His son might, but he would probably be discouraged from doing so. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 22 11.58am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And let the Bidens sue the paper for printing false information.

That would be a political judgement for Biden. Would he want such a distraction? Maybe, but not while he is in office, I would think.

His son might, but he would probably be discouraged from doing so.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Teddy Eagle 15 Apr 22 12.11pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That would be a political judgement for Biden. Would he want such a distraction? Maybe, but not while he is in office, I would think. His son might, but he would probably be discouraged from doing so. It was more the son I meant but it’s an intriguing prospect that a politician leaving office should then sue for all the false information that appeared during his tenure.

Teddy Eagle

15 Apr 22 12.11pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That would be a political judgement for Biden. Would he want such a distraction? Maybe, but not while he is in office, I would think.

His son might, but he would probably be discouraged from doing so.

It was more the son I meant but it’s an intriguing prospect that a politician leaving office should then sue for all the false information that appeared during his tenure.

Stirlingsays 20 Apr 22 12.23am
I've been hearing rumours that the EU is preparing an embargo on Russian oil that would explode prices at the pump, but is waiting until after the presidential election to announce it... so as not to penalize Macron. Would they do this? It would be highly dishonest and hurt the economy and the working classes generally to a massive extent. It's certainly what Zelensky has been calling for.....We will see I suppose. God knows what countries like Germany would do. For what's it's worth I'll be filling my tank on election night. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2022 1.00am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

20 Apr 22 12.23am

I've been hearing rumours that the EU is preparing an embargo on Russian oil that would explode prices at the pump, but is waiting until after the presidential election to announce it... so as not to penalize Macron.

Would they do this? It would be highly dishonest and hurt the economy and the working classes generally to a massive extent.

It's certainly what Zelensky has been calling for.....We will see I suppose. God knows what countries like Germany would do.

For what's it's worth I'll be filling my tank on election night.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2022 1.00am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Apr 22 9.56am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I've been hearing rumours that the EU is preparing an embargo on Russian oil that would explode prices at the pump, but is waiting until after the presidential election to announce it... so as not to penalize Macron. Would they do this? It would be highly dishonest and hurt the economy and the working classes generally to a massive extent. It's certainly what Zelensky has been calling for.....We will see I suppose. God knows what countries like Germany would do. For what's it's worth I'll be filling my tank on election night. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2022 1.00am) Surely it's more likely that Macron would need to agree for it to go ahead, and he won't at the moment. As Le Pen would not only not agree if she won, but would probably try to force a reversal, it makes no sense to even attempt to push ahead with such a controversial policy until after the election. It would just produce heat without actually doing anything. If it went ahead, and I think it remains a big if, it would have to be matched by government interventions to limit the impact together with plans in place for increased Middle East production. We'll see. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 20 Apr 22 9.56am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Would they do this? It would be highly dishonest and hurt the economy and the working classes generally to a massive extent.

It's certainly what Zelensky has been calling for.....We will see I suppose. God knows what countries like Germany would do.

For what's it's worth I'll be filling my tank on election night.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2022 1.00am)

Surely it's more likely that Macron would need to agree for it to go ahead, and he won't at the moment.

As Le Pen would not only not agree if she won, but would probably try to force a reversal, it makes no sense to even attempt to push ahead with such a controversial policy until after the election. It would just produce heat without actually doing anything.

If it went ahead, and I think it remains a big if, it would have to be matched by government interventions to limit the impact together with plans in place for increased Middle East production. We'll see.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

eaglesdare 20 Apr 22 10.05am
I am hearing the EU wont like it if Le Pen gets it. On that alone she would have my vote!

eaglesdare

20 Apr 22 10.05am

I am hearing the EU wont like it if Le Pen gets it. On that alone she would have my vote!

BlueJay UK 20 Apr 22 10.18am
Originally posted by eaglesdare I am hearing the EU wont like it if Le Pen gets it. On that alone she would have my vote! Certainly, they wouldn't. Oddswise though, it's looking less likely over time. Anyone who sees it happening can get 8-1+ for a Le Pen win.

BlueJay

UK 20 Apr 22 10.18am

Originally posted by eaglesdare

I am hearing the EU wont like it if Le Pen gets it. On that alone she would have my vote!

Certainly, they wouldn't. Oddswise though, it's looking less likely over time. Anyone who sees it happening can get 8-1+ for a Le Pen win.

Elpis In a pub 20 Apr 22 10.31am
Originally posted by eaglesdare I am hearing the EU wont like it if Le Pen gets it. On that alone she would have my vote! Indeed the EU were last week saying they were going to take her to court over fraudulantly cliaming money under false pretences . Its an historic case thats been going on for years but they just brought it up again to sour the Le Pen campaign . Would be intereting and certainly different if She won but I cant see it . Macron's popularity is nosediving but the French have never been as right wing as Le Pen has been in the past . Her slight move to the centre has got her to the run off but the fear is she will revert to type once elected .

Elpis

In a pub 20 Apr 22 10.31am

Originally posted by eaglesdare

I am hearing the EU wont like it if Le Pen gets it. On that alone she would have my vote!

Indeed the EU were last week saying they were going to take her to court over fraudulantly cliaming money under false pretences . Its an historic case thats been going on for years but they just brought it up again to sour the Le Pen campaign .

Would be intereting and certainly different if She won but I cant see it . Macron's popularity is nosediving but the French have never been as right wing as Le Pen has been in the past . Her slight move to the centre has got her to the run off but the fear is she will revert to type once elected .

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Apr 22 3.17pm
Originally posted by Elpis Indeed the EU were last week saying they were going to take her to court over fraudulantly cliaming money under false pretences . Its an historic case thats been going on for years but they just brought it up again to sour the Le Pen campaign . Would be intereting and certainly different if She won but I cant see it . Macron's popularity is nosediving but the French have never been as right wing as Le Pen has been in the past . Her slight move to the centre has got her to the run off but the fear is she will revert to type once elected . Every trick in the book is being used against Le Pen. Can't see her winning with that much heat. Yet, even then, voters still find her second most popular out of an unlimited amount of candidates. The issues her party highlight should be taken seriously, but are disregarded as uneducated and far right. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Apr 22 3.17pm

Originally posted by Elpis

Every trick in the book is being used against Le Pen. Can't see her winning with that much heat. Yet, even then, voters still find her second most popular out of an unlimited amount of candidates. The issues her party highlight should be taken seriously, but are disregarded as uneducated and far right.

Red and Blue Army!

Stirlingsays 20 Apr 22 5.48pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Every trick in the book is being used against Le Pen. Can't see her winning with that much heat. Yet, even then, voters still find her second most popular out of an unlimited amount of candidates. The issues her party highlight should be taken seriously, but are disregarded as uneducated and far right. She's been making steady progress for years now. As the direction Macron seeks will only result in more decline I think the next election will be her moment. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

20 Apr 22 5.48pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

She's been making steady progress for years now. As the direction Macron seeks will only result in more decline I think the next election will be her moment.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 22 7.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays She's been making steady progress for years now. As the direction Macron seeks will only result in more decline I think the next election will be her moment. If she isn't detained on some spurious charge or in a mysterious car accident between now and then.

Hrolf The Ganger

20 Apr 22 7.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

She's been making steady progress for years now. As the direction Macron seeks will only result in more decline I think the next election will be her moment.

If she isn't detained on some spurious charge or in a mysterious car accident between now and then.

Stirlingsays 20 Apr 22 9.11pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger If she isn't detained on some spurious charge or in a mysterious car accident between now and then. At this stage I think if they tried underhand stuff it would just end up strengthening them due to the lack of trust today. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

20 Apr 22 9.11pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If she isn't detained on some spurious charge or in a mysterious car accident between now and then.

At this stage I think if they tried underhand stuff it would just end up strengthening them due to the lack of trust today.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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