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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Oct 22 5.01pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Just had an email about this as I live near the ground.

Planning committee meeting 20 October 2022 – starting at 6:30pm

Yes, I got one to from the council today- was just going to post.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Oct 22 5.30pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

I agree, the unicorn stables will appear first

I think you mean the Academy

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Oct 22 5.32pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

As I keep saying this is simply not going to happen until the existing stand is condemned or falls down.

Parts of it may fall down when the bulldozers move in, so you're probably half right.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Oct 22 5.34pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Just had an email about this as I live near the ground.

Planning committee meeting 20 October 2022 – starting at 6:30pm

Same. Full revised planning application submitted 29th, final officers report submitted today, link below

[Link]

Details all the community and surrounding area investment plans if you are bothered about that sort of thing, eg

Carbon Offset
Monitoring Costs
Travel Plan Monitoring Cost
Local Employment and Training Strategy Operation
Contribution towards Regeneration Masterplan brief
Bus Stop Improvements on Whitehorse Lane
Pedestrian Comfort Level Assessment
Improvements to Cycle Routes to Stadium
Station Management Plans
Controlled Parking Zone Assessment and Consultation
Travel Plan Bond
Local Employment and Training Strategy Construction
Wayfinding Strategy, Highway Signage and Public Transport Access Improvement Contribution
Controlled Parking Zone Implementation and Operational Delivery Contribution
CCTV Contribution
To be agreed post decision following Operational Requirement Assessment as requested by Met Police

Edited by SW19 CPFC (12 Oct 2022 5.39pm)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Oct 22 5.53pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Same. Full revised planning application submitted 29th, final officers report submitted today, link below

[Link]

Details all the community and surrounding area investment plans if you are bothered about that sort of thing, eg

Carbon Offset
Monitoring Costs
Travel Plan Monitoring Cost
Local Employment and Training Strategy Operation
Contribution towards Regeneration Masterplan brief
Bus Stop Improvements on Whitehorse Lane
Pedestrian Comfort Level Assessment
Improvements to Cycle Routes to Stadium
Station Management Plans
Controlled Parking Zone Assessment and Consultation
Travel Plan Bond
Local Employment and Training Strategy Construction
Wayfinding Strategy, Highway Signage and Public Transport Access Improvement Contribution
Controlled Parking Zone Implementation and Operational Delivery Contribution
CCTV Contribution
To be agreed post decision following Operational Requirement Assessment as requested by Met Police

Edited by SW19 CPFC (12 Oct 2022 5.39pm)

So, a load of expensive things that no other club had to do.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 12 Oct 22 5.57pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Same. Full revised planning application submitted 29th, final officers report submitted today, link below

[Link]

Details all the community and surrounding area investment plans if you are bothered about that sort of thing, eg

Carbon Offset
Monitoring Costs
Travel Plan Monitoring Cost
Local Employment and Training Strategy Operation
Contribution towards Regeneration Masterplan brief
Bus Stop Improvements on Whitehorse Lane
Pedestrian Comfort Level Assessment
Improvements to Cycle Routes to Stadium
Station Management Plans
Controlled Parking Zone Assessment and Consultation
Travel Plan Bond
Local Employment and Training Strategy Construction
Wayfinding Strategy, Highway Signage and Public Transport Access Improvement Contribution
Controlled Parking Zone Implementation and Operational Delivery Contribution
CCTV Contribution
To be agreed post decision following Operational Requirement Assessment as requested by Met Police

Edited by SW19 CPFC (12 Oct 2022 5.39pm)

A truly mind boggling set of demands by planning, the particular strange one, 500 traffic signs required at a cost of £10,000, but they dont want any traffic near the stadium, then another £100,000 to improve cycle access to the stadium, who cycles to Selhurst Park.
In short its never going to be built, the Council will see to that.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 12 Oct 22 6.01pm

Originally posted by Painter

A truly mind boggling set of demands by planning, the particular strange one, 500 traffic signs required at a cost of £10,000, but they dont want any traffic near the stadium, then another £100,000 to improve cycle access to the stadium, who cycles to Selhurst Park.
In short its never going to be built, the Council will see to that.

You live there Painter, you should know.
Right rum load of characters from what I’ve read.
I suppose like most of these types brown paper bags come into it.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Oct 22 7.28pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

You live there Painter, you should know.
Right rum load of characters from what I’ve read.
I suppose like most of these types brown paper bags come into it.

Brown paper bags indeed, I hear they have approached CONservative party HQ to oversee this delicate process!

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Oct 22 7.38pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

So, a load of expensive things that no other club had to do.

Pretty sure most large developments in London, whether stadiums or tower blocks, also need to contribute towards these kind of things. I'd be very surprised if Spurs, Arsenal etc. didn't have to spend similar money on similar schemes. It's part of the process.

 


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pizzapat Flag Caterham 12 Oct 22 7.40pm

im 62 and ive been saying for ages, and i still say it this WONT be built in my lifetime....

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Oct 22 7.41pm

Originally posted by Painter

A truly mind boggling set of demands by planning, the particular strange one, 500 traffic signs required at a cost of £10,000, but they dont want any traffic near the stadium, then another £100,000 to improve cycle access to the stadium, who cycles to Selhurst Park.
In short its never going to be built, the Council will see to that.

The amount of doommongering is astounding, considering the same was said of the academy. Don't get it. These things take time. That doesn't mean they won't come to fruition.

The only thing holding this up is Sainsbury's, and a CPO has already been mooted to solve that problem. The residents relocation needs to be handled sensitively but ultimately that is nowhere near as big an issue as J Sainos trying to get the most possible out of their little piece of Selhurst.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Oct 22 7.42pm

I cannot wait to come back to this thread twice and highlight all this dross

The day the ground is broken.

The day the stand is opened.

Should have done the same on the academy thread.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 12 Oct 22 8.26pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

The amount of doommongering is astounding, considering the same was said of the academy. Don't get it. These things take time. That doesn't mean they won't come to fruition.

The only thing holding this up is Sainsbury's, and a CPO has already been mooted to solve that problem. The residents relocation needs to be handled sensitively but ultimately that is nowhere near as big an issue as J Sainos trying to get the most possible out of their little piece of Selhurst.

With respect, its totally different from the Academy application.

There was no;
Supermarket blocking
Houses to be bought and replacements built elsewhere nearby.
Increase in volume of traffic on matchdays
Croydon Council
Etc.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Oct 22 8.32pm

i"m just happy to see the corner by the arthur and holmesdale filled in, been waiting for that for 30 years, since it was the away end.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 12 Oct 22 10.50pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

i"m just happy to see the corner by the arthur and holmesdale filled in, been waiting for that for 30 years, since it was the away end.

They could leave it uncovered and put the away fans there. Just like they did before sandwiching them between the Ultras and the Arthur singers.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 13 Oct 22 4.32pm

Originally posted by Painter

With respect, its totally different from the Academy application.

There was no;
Supermarket blocking
Houses to be bought and replacements built elsewhere nearby.
Increase in volume of traffic on matchdays
Croydon Council
Etc.

Supermarket blocking – CPO
Traffic – Factored into the planning application
Council – Want it passed, will pass it

Housing is probably the only unknown and from what I read that is well on the way to being resolved.

 


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est1905 Flag 13 Oct 22 4.51pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

So, a load of expensive things that no other club had to do.

Some serious hoops they are expecting the club to jump through. I bet Levy didn't get this headache when trying to get the trophy dodgers stadium built!

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Oct 22 5.16pm

Originally posted by est1905

Some serious hoops they are expecting the club to jump through. I bet Levy didn't get this headache when trying to get the trophy dodgers stadium built!

These are my thoughts too. Croydon Council being totally skint is nothing to do with it, of course. They've always been supportive of their local Premier League club.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Oct 22 5.19pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Pretty sure most large developments in London, whether stadiums or tower blocks, also need to contribute towards these kind of things. I'd be very surprised if Spurs, Arsenal etc. didn't have to spend similar money on similar schemes. It's part of the process.

I doubt it, but possibly. My thoughts are this is a Croydon Council issue and they don't really want a football team. I wonder if Bromley might be better, frankly? It's not like it's set in stone we have to be in Croydon. This upgrade to one stand seems hardly worth the trouble. Move to where someone actually actively wants a Premier League side, instead of always causing trouble for us.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 13 Oct 22 5.36pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

They could leave it uncovered and put the away fans there. Just like they did before sandwiching them between the Ultras and the Arthur singers.

 

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