I hope your right. One scenario I can see playing out is that Corbyn and co do not call a no confidence motion but instead go for legislation blocking a no deal. They win that vote and Boris then kicks out the rebels but as Corbyn hasn't called a no confidence motion Boris is still saddled with the blocking a no deal law.

In that circumstance I can see Boris wanting a GE but to do that he will have to call for a vote of no confidence in his own government. At that point Corbyn and co will have no choice but to vote against a motion of no confidence against the government brought by the government. If Corbyn doesn't vote then I think the Remain voters are entitled to say why not.

Many twists and turns to come.

One more point

Had you, or anyone else, heard of a "backstop" to solve the Irish border question in 2016?

Had you, or anyone else, even heard of a "no deal" Brexit let alone considered it's implications?

It's far from all guesswork! One side floats on the wishes and hopes of restoring an era long since past. The other bases it's analysis on hard facts and realistic forecasts of the future development of world trade.

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No it's not. This is simple politics if the opposition win the vote they can try and form a government or we have a GE. Our democracy is not under threat.

One more point

I trust you would acknowledge that it is the will of the current Parliament that they do not want us to leave the EU without first agreeing a "deal".

That being so any political shenanigans from the executive to block Parliament from expressing that will threatens our democracy. Seeking to create scapegoats from the likes of the EU negotiators, Tory rebels or Corbyn are disingenuous attempts to shift the focus. Tactics copied from Trump!

Parliament must, and I am sure will, unite to counter these threats and do whatever is necessary to ensure that their sovereignty remains intact.

The honourable, and constitutionally correct, course of action is for the Government to accept Parliament's instructions, call for a further extension and then go to the country with a specific proposal that if returned they will exit without a deal. That they don't want to do that is largely because of the shadow of Farage looming over them. Which is where it all started. That man has a lot to answer for!

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Parliament has demonstrated that it is unable to agree on a deal and voted one down three times already.

That is up to a vote until it happens I don't know and neither do you. I trust you will agree that if Corbyn fails to get the votes for whichever motion he is going for that the will of parliament has been heard and we can leave without a deal.

I am touched that you are so concerned about the sovereignty of Parliament as many leavers will point out that is why we want to leave the EU.

You are making too much of the current situation our democracy is not under threat (yet).

Governments are entitled to set the timetable and opposition are entitled to oppose the timetable and the bills. I accept that Johnson has picked a timetable that favours his government but then Corbyn is planning to do the same thing with the opposition and set his timetable.

Both sides are playing politics. Right now my preference is for a GE before 31 Oct if we get that hopefully the losers will stop complaining.

One more point

In terms of the Conservative membership, a poll has revealed that nearly half would find unacceptable a deal which deleted the backstop but retained rest of the Withdrawal Agreement.

Some 63% would find unacceptable a deal which would have a time limited backstop but retained the rest of the Withdrawal Agreement.

Not at all.

Parliament will always find the way to demonstrate it's control over the executive, no matter how long it takes, which could be years.

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Looks like Boris is going for it

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He needs the approval of Parliament (something I sure some posters will be happy with) if the opposition refuse I think the public will be entitled to ask why?

The only question on the table should will the GE be before 31 Oct. If the answer is yes then Corbyn and co really needs to agree if they want to maintain credibility with the voters.

Boris is showing he is decisive something Mrs May completely failed to do.

One more point

I disagree. It is abundantly clear that the balance of opinion in Parliament is against a no deal Brexit.

I don't think Corbyn will decide this, and certainly hope not. I think Blair is right and agreeing to an election would be falling into a trap set by Johnson's strategists. I hope wiser heads in the shadow cabinet and behind the scenes will restrain Corbyn's instincts and personal ambitions.

Our sovereignty has never been, and remains, under any kind of threat by being a member of the EU. That's just yet another anti-EU myth.

Governments have set the timetable only by conventions granted to them by Parliament. If they abuse that gift then it will be removed from them. If an executive seeks to establish sovereignty over Parliament then it will be treated like the naughty child it seeks to mimic and probably given a "time out".

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