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 DanH  SW2 16 Jun 21 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Personally I find slitting the throats of animals and letting them slowly bleed to death insensitive. I find women having to covering themselves insensitive. I find men being killed for being gay insensitive. Still, I’m sure you are right to be outraged by a Muslim footballer having a non alcoholic beer in front of him Dan. What part of my post suggested I was outraged? Just explaining why he would have removed it.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Jun 21 2.49pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Paul Pogba is a Muslim. Having a bottle of beer (even if alcohol free) was insensitive at best. Pogba is a professionally paid footballer, he & all the others have to do what the 'stakeholders' require of them, no matter where they are playing or who for. Religion & Politics should not be in football at anytime. Players know that product placement are common & are part of the agreement that all clubs, countries, national FA's AND players sign up to, if they want to take part.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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| DanH SW2 16 Jun 21 4.17pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Pogba is a professionally paid footballer, he & all the others have to do what the 'stakeholders' require of them, no matter where they are playing or who for. Religion & Politics should not be in football at anytime. Players know that product placement are common & are part of the agreement that all clubs, countries, national FA's AND players sign up to, if they want to take part. So you would ban Joel Ward from getting down on his knees and saying a little prayer before kick off like he has done in every game he's ever played for us would you?
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| eritheagle Erith 16 Jun 21 4.58pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
So you would ban Joel Ward from getting down on his knees and saying a little prayer before kick off like he has done in every game he's ever played for us would you? Joel Ward doesn't kneel he squats down and takes a quiet moment as the muslim players stand and say a prayer. None of them do it in a 'look at me' manner.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 16 Jun 21 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by eritheagle
Joel Ward doesn't kneel he squats down and takes a quiet moment as the muslim players stand and say a prayer. None of them do it in a 'look at me' manner. So religion in football is ok?
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| eritheagle Erith 16 Jun 21 5.40pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
So religion in football is ok? I didn't say that, I didn't offer an opinion either way!
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Jun 21 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
So you would ban Joel Ward from getting down on his knees and saying a little prayer before kick off like he has done in every game he's ever played for us would you? WTF are you on about? How is that in anyway remotely connected to 'taking the knee' & the fact that CR7/Pogba have influenced the companies/stakeholders products with the masses/followers. You really cant reply to a normal post without twisting it(albeit badly) to suit your own ends & narrative. Give it a rest, Not interested. Comprende?
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Jun 21 6.19pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
WTF are you on about? How is that in anyway remotely connected to 'taking the knee' & the fact that CR7/Pogba have influenced the companies/stakeholders products with the masses/followers. You really cant reply to a normal post without twisting it(albeit badly) to suit your own ends & narrative. Give it a rest, Not interested. Comprende? not much point trying to argue with reason against somebody evidently permanently triggered and feeling all the righteous indignation. Regarding Taking the knee, its all got very tired by now.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 16 Jun 21 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
WTF are you on about? How is that in anyway remotely connected to 'taking the knee' & the fact that CR7/Pogba have influenced the companies/stakeholders products with the masses/followers. You really cant reply to a normal post without twisting it(albeit badly) to suit your own ends & narrative. Give it a rest, Not interested. Comprende? You said, literally in your post prior to this that religion has no place in football. So it's a valid question to ask if you have an issue with Joel Ward praying before a game.
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Teddy Eagle  16 Jun 21 7.05pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
This is how a footballer can influence the masses instead of virtual signalling with a limp limb . . . Cristiano Ronaldo Paul Pogba Isn’t the issue here that both Coke and Heineken are official sponsors of the tournament? Wonder what reaction players who aren’t household names would have got.
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Jun 21 7.53pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
You said, literally in your post prior to this that religion has no place in football. So it's a valid question to ask if you have an issue with Joel Ward praying before a game. No marxist advertisements have no place in football. What about stormzy anyway. Do I have to kneel. BTW some black music is awesome but not because they're black, just because it's awesome.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 16 Jun 21 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Paul Pogba is a Muslim. Having a bottle of beer (even if alcohol free) was insensitive at best. Fair enough. But have you ever noticed Muslim owned convenience shops selling alcohol and packets of bacon and ham? They’ve handled all these to sell and it isn’t against Islam to do so. They can also trade in shares etc but not gamble.
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| cryrst The garden of England 16 Jun 21 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Fair enough. But have you ever noticed Muslim owned convenience shops selling alcohol and packets of bacon and ham? They’ve handled all these to sell and it isn’t against Islam to do so. They can also trade in shares etc but not gamble. My local. Lovely people who never judge. Beer bacon and all 'non Muslim' foods and drinks. Edited by cryrst (16 Jun 2021 8.45pm)
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 16 Jun 21 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
No marxist advertisements have no place in football. What about stormzy anyway. Do I have to kneel. BTW some black music is awesome but not because they're black, just because it's awesome. Double negative, lack of question marks, poor punctuation and pretty incoherant/irrelevant to anything. Have you been drinking, mate?
La la la your mum |
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| cryrst The garden of England 16 Jun 21 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Double negative, lack of question marks, poor punctuation and pretty incoherant/irrelevant to anything. Have you been drinking, mate? That's not fair mate. You totally get what I'm saying or you couldn't have replied without question marks; which you haven't have you.
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Jun 21 8.53pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
You said, literally in your post prior to this that religion has no place in football. So it's a valid question to ask if you have an issue with Joel Ward praying before a game. Seriously? Joel Ward PRAYS before a game? Are you on summat You're just using the same narrative DanH does to twist posts to suit your own ends? FYI Ward 'CROUCHES' down NOT kneels. FFS
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| cryrst The garden of England 16 Jun 21 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Seriously? Joel Ward PRAYS before a game? Are you on summat You're just using the same narrative DanH does to twist posts to suit your own ends? FYI Ward 'CROUCHES' down NOT kneels. FFS He prays to God not George scumbag floyd
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| DanH SW2 16 Jun 21 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Seriously? Joel Ward PRAYS before a game? Are you on summat You're just using the same narrative DanH does to twist posts to suit your own ends? FYI Ward 'CROUCHES' down NOT kneels. FFS Whatever he does he says a little prayer before every game. He always has done. If we should keep religion out of football then surely he shouldn’t do that either, along with all the players the cross themselves when they come on the pitch or score right? Edited by DanH (16 Jun 2021 9.41pm)
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| DanH SW2 16 Jun 21 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Fair enough. But have you ever noticed Muslim owned convenience shops selling alcohol and packets of bacon and ham? They’ve handled all these to sell and it isn’t against Islam to do so. They can also trade in shares etc but not gamble. I’m not saying Islam makes sense Pogba probably just didn’t want to be sat there talking to the press with a bottle of Heineken in the same shot. It’a not a big deal. Edited by DanH (16 Jun 2021 9.53pm)
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I’m an atheist myself so most the religions to me are a nonsense but it doesn’t stop me respecting people who are religious and trying to understand what might be insensitive to them. I’ve also studied/worked with Muslims who drink, but are nowhere near as dedicated to their faith as the older generations in their family. I think with many religions in the west they have constantly diluted amongst the younger generations. All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2025 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
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