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 dynamicdick  Dormansland 06 Sep 19 2.04pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
DynamicDick May I congratulate you Sir on an excellent post. Willo, in all my years on here I have never received such a compliment and one with a David Attenborough theme. If I am ever looking for a change of career this could tick a box. Thank you!
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| steeleye20 Croydon 06 Sep 19 2.04pm |
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The fuhrer drawing some criticism for appearing with the new “Schutzstaffel” elite BJ protection guard yesterday. Cool it, fuhrer cat.......
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Sep 19 2.05pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Based of BoJo's own words I just can't imagine him asking the EU for an extension. But at the same time, there is likely to be an election in November now I'd say, and I doubt he'd want to step down when potentially it could result in him being prime minister for 5 years. A tricky situation. Three years plus in, and the next twist and turn still remains an unknown. We cannot be certain of this given the two-thirds rule. One is left with the impression that these parties would vote down ANY deal that Boris agrees with the EU.It would appear that the only way we would achieve Brexit is with NO deal, resorting to WTO rules and not "Crashing out" which is the emotive rhetoric and hyperbole of those hell-bent on keeping us in the sclerotic EU. Edited by Willo (06 Sep 2019 2.06pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 06 Sep 19 2.10pm |
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'Christians revoke, salute the happy morn'.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Sep 19 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
Willo, in all my years on here I have never received such a compliment and one with a David Attenborough theme. If I am ever looking for a change of career this could tick a box. Thank you! DynamicDick This is very kind of you and I thank you for your generous sentiments.
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| Invalid user 2019 06 Sep 19 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
We cannot be certain of this given the two-thirds rule. One is left with the impression that these parties would vote down ANY deal that Boris agrees with the EU.It would appear that the only way we would achieve Brexit is with NO deal, resorting to WTO rules and not "Crashing out" which is the emotive rhetoric and hyperbole of those hell-bent on keeping us in the sclerotic EU. Edited by Willo (06 Sep 2019 2.06pm) On Question Time last night Emily Thornberry rather bizarrely stated that if they were in power, they would seek a better deal, that they would then put back to the people, while campaigning to remain?!? So I'd say I'm definitely in agreement that there is no plan really, other than to throw enough spanners in the works to make this government unworkable. On the flipside of that we've been back to the country under Theresa May and it's the way we've voted that has allowed for a parliament that can behave this way. As time pans out the Theresa May snap elections looks more and more disastrous in terms of the stalemate situation that's some about. With all that said, through one mechanism or another I do see a November election as being quite likely. It appears to be the intention to either make Boris jump ship, or humiliate himself in the run up to that. Should he be forced to ask the EU for another extention and refuse to do so, but remain in his job I have no idea what that will mean. Or if we would drop out of the EU as result. Lots of unknowns right now.
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
As a matter of interest what makes them loony? Presumably they are far less palatable than the highly impressive Johnson and his acolytes and the similarly impressive Corbyn and his. For me, I will never forgive their betrayal over student fees, Clegg forgot his principles to gain a bit of power.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Sep 19 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Based of BoJo's own words I just can't imagine him asking the EU for an extension. But at the same time, there is likely to be an election in November now I'd say, and I doubt he'd want to step down when potentially it could result in him being prime minister for 5 years. A tricky situation. Three years plus in, and the next twist and turn still remains an unknown. Jeremy Corbyn’s having repeatedly called for a General Election did not agree to Johnson's request for one wittering on about preventing a 'No deal'.
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I was about to agree with you then I remembered that the fishy woman wants another for Scotland. The way she is sucking up to Labour she may get it.
Hope so, but with the proviso that, as it is to break up the Union, we should all get a vote
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Sep 19 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
For me, I will never forgive their betrayal over student fees, Clegg forgot his principles to gain a bit of power. Just like they have been honouring the last one.
Edited by Willo (06 Sep 2019 2.32pm)
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
You and your ilk are continually speaking like remaining is a done deal. It's bizarre. If we leave with some form of deal, we've left. End of. You lot can then fight over what you meant by leaving but that is for the birds. We will still have left. Don't throw your toys out of the pram simply because you won't be getting your version of 'leave'. That was never specified, and anyone who claims it meant this or that is simply making it up to suit their own position. Bit patronising, don't you think? What is/are his ilk?
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't recall there being any overwhelming expert opinion on that subject. It was a political judgement. Aren't these the same people who think Brexit will be a financial disaster. Happy to be proved wrong Wissie
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| Invalid user 2019 06 Sep 19 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
Willo, in all my years on here I have never received such a compliment and one with a David Attenborough theme. If I am ever looking for a change of career this could tick a box. Thank you! When Willo offers words of praise it's a magical moment, like the anointing of the sick
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.42pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Aren't these the same people who think Brexit will be a financial disaster. Happy to be proved wrong Wissie The FT were adamant it was a good idea, was this an expert opinion or Political judgement?
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.46pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
On Question Time last night Emily Thornberry rather bizarrely stated that if they were in power, they would seek a better deal, that they would then put back to the people, while campaigning to remain?!? So I'd say I'm definitely in agreement that there is no plan really, other than to throw enough spanners in the works to make this government unworkable. On the flipside of that we've been back to the country under Theresa May and it's the way we've voted that has allowed for a parliament that can behave this way. As time pans out the Theresa May snap elections looks more and more disastrous in terms of the stalemate situation that's some about. With all that said, through one mechanism or another I do see a November election as being quite likely. It appears to be the intention to either make Boris jump ship, or humiliate himself in the run up to that. Should he be forced to ask the EU for another extention and refuse to do so, but remain in his job I have no idea what that will mean. Or if we would drop out of the EU as result. Lots of unknowns right now. Shadow Foreign Secretary who just rolls her eyes when someone disagrees with her, needs to grow up and learn a lot about being a diplomat.
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.50pm |
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WTF are you on about, please enlighten me
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| DanH SW2 06 Sep 19 2.52pm |
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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle
My view on this after a decent Friday lunchtime is that we just need to leave. That is what was voted for 2 years ago. If there is no deal so be it. At that point it will then focus the minds to sort out trades deals etc as quickly as possible. Qualification: 5 pints of Camden Pale Ale in 100 mins. This is a fine effort, to be applauded. The rest of the post is b*llocks, mind
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Sep 19 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Based of BoJo's own words I just can't imagine him asking the EU for an extension. But at the same time, there is likely to be an election in November now I'd say, and I doubt he'd want to step down when potentially it could result in him being prime minister for 5 years. A tricky situation. Three years plus in, and the next twist and turn still remains an unknown. My own reading of this is that Johnson will bluster and protest, ask for another vote on an election etc etc just as a smokescreen. If he does go to Brussels to request the extension as mandated by Parliament he could vote against it, thus bringing the whole pack of cards tumbling down, because time will be too short to reverse it. Or he might start a legal challenge so late in the day as to avoid having to request an extension prior to Oct 31. I have no doubt that these, and other scenarios, are all being thought through by constitutional experts on both sides of this chasm.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Sep 19 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
When Willo offers words of praise it's a magical moment, like the anointing of the sick Your words have left me feeling like a Badger at the start of the mating season.
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