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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Sep 19 10.56pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Not that it affects any of my points. But we talk with and message people in other EU countries most days. Their views are not even close to those you describe.

Your views are so skewed towards the EU that I don't believe much of that BS if I'm being honest...

 


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eritheagle Flag Erith 11 Sep 19 10.59pm

Originally posted by silvertop

That .makes no sense.

Also if leavers get in a strop and withdraw their vote then remainers will dominate politics for a generation.

Maybe not to you, living in that little remoaner bubble of yours!

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 11 Sep 19 11.09pm

So the latest iteration of yellowhammer is out.

We’ve already spent 8bn on no deal mitigation, 2bn of which was hastily added recently as it became a genuine possibility.

As expected some claims have been overblown, but the devil is in the detail. Enough of which is too much disruption for no good reason, especially when the option of a deal is viable.

Still want a no deal at all costs? Anyone got a knife for all these noses? Like moths to a flame.

I’d rather leave with a deal, thanks very much.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Sep 19 11.14pm

Originally posted by the silurian


Oh I understood your post, you just think youre so clever dont you, seems like you are in a minority though, most people think youre just an argumentative old fool. What are the massive changes in circumstances?

I'll ignore the personal insults as ducks have more permeable backs than me. I accept I am a minority here, but that's far from true in the real world. If you don't think that Parliament failing to find a way to exit that they can reach a majority decision on is not a significant change to their original position then I don't think you are being realistic.

We voted OUT and most MPs are doing their utmost to renege on that deal....'we will honour the result of the referendum'...yeah right! Self serving bunch they are!!

You voted out but 48% of us didn't. Their interests, along with everyone who did not vote or could not vote matter too. MPs represent us all and have not been trying to renege on anything. They have been trying to find an exit that does the least harm but know that leaving without a formal agreement is irresponsible and not what most people wanted.

If, as you say the EU dont want a no deal, they are certainly going about it in a strange way....if they had only given Cameron a little bit when he went to them, none of this s*** would be happening....they really just want to punish us for leaving and to stop anyone else wanting to leave...Frexit? Spanexit? Certainly lots of people here in France would love to get out


I have little doubt that the EU now regret not offering Cameron a little more but they didn't expect the result anymore than anyone else did. For sure it isn't in their overall interests to be overly generous and set a precedent.

Edited by the silurian (11 Sep 2019 9.40pm)

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 11 Sep 19 11.24pm

Behold the cognitive dissonance.

[Link]

person 1:

This is project fear on steroids, negative scare mongering to undermine the "will of the people"!

person 2:

This is a clear and correct view of just how f***ed up no deal would be, no one voted for this s***!

person 1 types:

Stirley, Hrolfy....90% of people on holmesdale.net

person 2 types

me, old maple syrup, some dude from wisbech and a bloke called dan.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Sep 19 11.29pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

So the latest iteration of yellowhammer is out.

We’ve already spent 8bn on no deal mitigation, 2bn of which was hastily added recently as it became a genuine possibility.

As expected some claims have been overblown, but the devil is in the detail. Enough of which is too much disruption for no good reason, especially when the option of a deal is viable.

Still want a no deal at all costs? Anyone got a knife for all these noses? Like moths to a flame.

I’d rather leave with a deal, thanks very much.

Hopefully this will put the final nail in the coffin of the idea that leaving without a deal is an acceptable alternative in ANY circumstances.

Hopefully it will also lay to rest the idea that Parliament are fighting against the wishes of the people. Nobody wishes to be poorer and Parliament is acting in their interests.

 


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.TUX. Flag 11 Sep 19 11.35pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Behold the cognitive dissonance.

[Link]

person 1:

This is project fear on steroids, negative scare mongering to undermine the "will of the people"!

person 2:

This is a clear and correct view of just how f***ed up no deal would be, no one voted for this s***!

person 1 types:

Stirley, Hrolfy....90% of people on holmesdale.net

person 2 types

me, old maple syrup, some dude from wisbech and a bloke called dan.

1. Why are the EU once again pumping funds into a continually failing system? (The clue is in 'continually'
2. Why is the current economic situation within the EU never (rarely at best) mentioned here yet piss poor projections, and that's all they are, regarding our departure always taken as 'facts'?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 11 Sep 19 11.40pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Hopefully this will put the final nail in the coffin of the idea that leaving without a deal is an acceptable alternative in ANY circumstances.

Hopefully it will also lay to rest the idea that Parliament are fighting against the wishes of the people. Nobody wishes to be poorer and Parliament is acting in their interests.

Plenty of partisans on the leave side are frothing at the mouth to be poorer, at least in the short term. Literally at any cost.

Worth noting that these things are worst case not expected case, but the mere existence of them as a possibility is enough.

I buy the argument that in the long term anything could happen but I work in observable fact, opinion or consensus and that’s enough for me to not want a no deal.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 11 Sep 19 11.45pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

1. Why are the EU once again pumping funds into a continually failing system? (The clue is in 'continually'
2. Why is the current economic situation within the EU never (rarely at best) mentioned here yet piss poor projections, and that's all they are, regarding our departure always taken as 'facts'?

Everyone is pumping funds into a continually failing system. The clue is in ‘capitalism’. What’s your realistic alternative? Socialism? Unregulated decentralisation? Acid?

 


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.TUX. Flag 11 Sep 19 11.52pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Everyone is pumping funds into a continually failing system. The clue is in ‘capitalism’. What’s your realistic alternative? Socialism? Unregulated decentralisation? Acid?

It's crony capitalism ie one that you, i and nobody else here (i'm guessing) is privvy to. How many more clues do you need?
At least understand the system before you post.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 11 Sep 19 11.57pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

1. Why are the EU once again pumping funds into a continually failing system? (The clue is in 'continually'
2. Why is the current economic situation within the EU never (rarely at best) mentioned here yet piss poor projections, and that's all they are, regarding our departure always taken as 'facts'?

Your points are always very close to being spot on (in my opinion) but surely the best outcome for us is either to:

1. Remain and now we’ve caused all this fuss push for some proper reform as one of the biggest economies and most powerful countries in the world

Or

2. Leave with a deal that actually puts us on a decent footing to maintain as much of the trading status quo as possible and not ostracise us completely

No deal is ridiculous on so many levels and will take a generation to change.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 11 Sep 19 11.58pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

It's crony capitalism ie one that you, i and nobody else here (i'm guessing) is privvy to. How many more clues do you need?
At least understand the system before you post.

Haha.

Capitalism is by its very nature crony. As already implied by the original post.

‘At least understand the system’ - are you for real? Anyone with a basic grasp of life understands that capitalism is corrupt, exploitative and gamed, but it’s the least worst option.

Answer the question

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Sep 19 12.03am

Originally posted by DanH

Your points are always very close to being spot on (in my opinion) but surely the best outcome for us is either to:

1. Remain and now we’ve caused all this fuss push for some proper reform as one of the biggest economies and most powerful countries in the world

Or

2. Leave with a deal that actually puts us on a decent footing to maintain as much of the trading status quo as possible and not ostracise us completely

No deal is ridiculous on so many levels and will take a generation to change.

Biggest economies and most powerful countries is overstating it a bit perhaps. Especially on the trajectory we’ve been on for a while now. A lot of our international power comes by proxy courtesy of the good ol USA

 


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.TUX. Flag 12 Sep 19 12.15am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Haha.

Capitalism is by its very nature crony. As already implied by the original post.

‘At least understand the system’ - are you for real? Anyone with a basic grasp of life understands that capitalism is corrupt, exploitative and gamed, but it’s the least worst option.

Answer the question


Not when funds printed from bloody thin-air and charged to the masses(!) are deliberately given to those at the top of the tree (cronies)! What do they do with this 'free money', they inflate asset prices from shares to housing. Nice work if you can get it.

If you want true capitalism go to a boot-market. It's the perfect model.

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 12 Sep 19 12.35am

Next UK General Election - Overall Majority Betting Odds

No Majority 4/7
Conservatives 2-1
Labour 10-1

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 12 Sep 19 12.35am

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 38% (-4)
LAB: 24% (-4)
LDEM: 20% (+5)
BREX: 7% (+2)
GRN: 3% (-)

via @KantarTNS, 05 - 09 Sep
Chgs. w/ 19 Aug

Note: Kantar do not prompt for the Greens and the Brexit Party on the same page as the other three parties

 

.TUX. Flag 12 Sep 19 12.52am

Originally posted by dollardays

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 38% (-4)
LAB: 24% (-4)
LDEM: 20% (+5)
BREX: 7% (+2)
GRN: 3% (-)

via @KantarTNS, 05 - 09 Sep
Chgs. w/ 19 Aug

Note: Kantar do not prompt for the Greens and the Brexit Party on the same page as the other three parties

Once again we have no information regarding the failing block.
(No offence)

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 12 Sep 19 1.26am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Once again we have no information regarding the failing block.
(No offence)

It's interesting to see where the polls point at any given moment in time, especially at such a volatile time like this. For instance, to me, the last few polls probably point towards the some kind of Tory-Brexit Party pact happening even though that doesn't fit the noises that are currently being put out there by the Conservatives.

It's a true that the EU is failing in one way or another, on account that one of its most important members is perpetually on the verge of waving goodbye.. albeit a very, very long goodbye.

Edited by dollardays (12 Sep 2019 1.27am)

 

.TUX. Flag 12 Sep 19 1.33am

Originally posted by dollardays

It's interesting to see where the polls point at any given moment in time, especially at such a volatile time like this. For instance, to me, the last few polls probably point towards the some kind of Tory-Brexit Party pact happening even though that doesn't fit the noises that are currently being put out there by the Conservatives.

It's a true that the EU is failing in one way or another, on account that one of its most important members is perpetually on the verge of waving goodbye.. albeit a very, very long goodbye.

Edited by dollardays (12 Sep 2019 1.27am)

A 'Wisbech' effort at best.
For your own sake............don't be him.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 12 Sep 19 6.10am

Originally posted by Mapletree

In parachuting I nearly got wiped out by Lewis Collins from The Professionals when he did a low hook turn where he didn't a ought a.

In caving scared myself stupid getting stuck in a corkscrew.

The last line could be 50 shades of mapletree

 

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