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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jun 16 9.46am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Yes indeed. History tells us the lower paid and average career joes do really well in a recession. No job losses that kind of thing.

Vote Brexit for recession! And help the man in the street.

Scaremongering nonsense.

No one knows what will happen.

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 07 Jun 16 9.48am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

OK so Boris is allowed to change his mind but Corbyn isn't.

Boris is allowed to use quasi racist phrases such as 'piccannini's with water melon smiles' in a speech and then later be mooted as a potential party leader, yet an anti semite smear campaign against Labour is allowed to gain traction.

Double standards me thinks.

Personally I think Corbyn is allowed to change his mind. I've changed mine god knows how many times over the last few months. My issue with Corbyn is I am not sure whether he has REALLY changed his mind. Up until the leadership election his position had always been perfectly clear, now even supporting remain it feels like he is a reluctant figurehead.

As for Boris and piccanninies it is totally unacceptable and a clearly racist term

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Jun 16 9.50am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Murderers, rapists and violent offenders from across Europe have been able to remain in Britain after their crimes, the Justice Minister will say on Tuesday as he reveals a dossier of 50 offenders who have used EU rules to avoid deportation.

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I think it depends on what you mean by EU rules and deporting. I quite agree that the freedom of movement needs to 'go' and be replaced by a regulated and controlled form of immigration.

However, if you mean under Human Rights legislation, that was introduced by the UK into UK law. There are also EU regulations regarding where you can deport people.

Another case could be UK law on deportation being dressed up as EU laws, because that is how an appeal would be heard. For example, you can't deport someone to a country from which you granted them asylum. Whilst the appeal would be through human rights and the EU Court of human rights, the actual issue, is based in UK law - Which is that you've established their asylum status as someone who would be in unjust danger or persecution in that country.

Legally, it would be contradictory to then deport them in that scenario.

 


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View We are goin up!'s Profile We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 07 Jun 16 9.52am Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

Plus if we leave, Sterling will weaken, which will mean a further influx of overseas buyers in the market keeping prices at the very least where they are now.

The property argument is probably the worst bit of scaremongering by the world champion scaremongerers.

Agreed. Funnily enough, a load of my mates (aged 23-27) weren't going to vote in this election, but now they've heard it might help them buy a house more easily, they're going to vote leave.

Nice one George, you fcking idiot.

 


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 07 Jun 16 9.53am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Level 2 - ad hominen!
It's pertinent to this discussion.
Did you read the transcript of the anti semitism hearing that I posted on the thread? What are your thoughts?(please post on the Labour anti - semite thread though as I fear it will detract from the subject of this one)

Edited by nickgusset (07 Jun 2016 9.47am)

I am allowed to mention matters when they are valid and in the context of posts made.

It's funny that you are doing all of this 'Level 2' nonsense, directed at me and only me. DEFLECTION springs to mind whenever I see it.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 07 Jun 16 9.54am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Majority of new voter registrations have been under 34. Probably not a good sign for the Leavers.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 16 9.54am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Personally I think Corbyn is allowed to change his mind. I've changed mine god knows how many times over the last few months. My issue with Corbyn is I am not sure whether he has REALLY changed his mind. Up until the leadership election his position had always been perfectly clear, now even supporting remain it feels like he is a reluctant figurehead.

As for Boris and piccanninies it is totally unacceptable and a clearly racist term


He probably is a reluctant figurehead. But he is following what the majority of his party want so as leader he is democratically representing his party. If only more MP's had the balls to follow the wishes of their constituency rather than what the whip says.

As for Boris. It seems no matter what he does he somehow gets away with it.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Jun 16 9.54am

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Seems weird all the lefties for years crying about big business, banks etc.... yet want to remain in a European Union that is set up entirely to pander to the things they hate.

I mean your great leader Russell Brand has been talking about revolutions and all that, You finally get what you've all wanted & you all s*** your pants and decide to keep the status quo.

Strange bunch..

I'm in the out camp, and I'd say I'm pretty left wing.

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Jun 16 9.56am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

google

Has Jihadi Junior been smuggled 2,000 miles to SWEDEN for an operation? Reports claim four-year-old was moved from Syria after bungling ISIS doctors failed to treat his illness

And you have a problem with a four year old kid being saved? I'm quite happy with that.

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 16 9.57am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Scaremongering nonsense.

No one knows what will happen.

When you take what Kermit said out of context it is. But it was actually in response to something along the lines that those at the top (high earners) will suffer the most and is historically accurate.

 

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View We are goin up!'s Profile We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 07 Jun 16 10.06am Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Majority of new voter registrations have been under 34. Probably not a good sign for the Leavers.

You would expect that, though, surely?

 


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jun 16 10.11am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

When you take what Kermit said out of context it is. But it was actually in response to something along the lines that those at the top (high earners) will suffer the most and is historically accurate.

I assumed it was sarcasm. This is comrade kermit after all.

That would of course explain why we keep hearing how terrible it will be if we leave from certain institutions. Not that we need to it explaining.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Jun 2016 10.12am)

 

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