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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 6.41pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

The idea that the politicians and the Police as their "arm" are following a policy of "appeasement" over the grooming gangs, or any other issue, is simply ridiculous.

The OED defines appeasement as:

"the act of making somebody calmer or less angry by giving them what they want."

No-one is giving anyone what they want. They are giving them what they deserve. Slowly perhaps. Much too slowly for some. Unforgivably inefficiently for others, but not what they want. Criminals always deserve to be brought to face justice. Criminals who use their background to try to hide themselves in communities none less than any other. It just makes the Police's job much harder.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

There is a very simple solution that would please an awful lot of people

There you go again!

Still no admission of your error. Why is this? Do you really not see it, or are you just too stubborn to accept it? We all make mistakes and real men can admit them without shame. Or without attacking their critics from a position of power. Those are Trumplike tactics. You surely don't want to imitate him do you?

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

If "Robinson" isn't ultra right wing then I don't know what he is and I wouldn't want to know anyone who really is. Anyone further to the right than "Robinson" seems more likely to be in need of psychiatric help than a political platform.

As I have said before where you place anyone on the political spectrum always depends where you stand yourself.

SS admits he has sympathies with at least some of "Robinson's" views and actions so it's hardly surprising that he defends him.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Feb 20 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The idea that the politicians and the Police as their "arm" are following a policy of "appeasement" over the grooming gangs, or any other issue, is simply ridiculous.

The OED defines appeasement as:

"the act of making somebody calmer or less angry by giving them what they want."

No-one is giving anyone what they want. They are giving them what they deserve. Slowly perhaps. Much too slowly for some. Unforgivably inefficiently for others, but not what they want. Criminals always deserve to be brought to face justice. Criminals who use their background to try to hide themselves in communities none less than any other. It just makes the Police's job much harder.

Surely this depends on who is being appeased? In terms of the definition quoted that is exactly what happened because investigations were not being carried out as expediently as possible.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 7.16pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

I think Robinson in time will come through the other side like farage mainly has. The left hated farage but time is prooving him right and he even has a radio show on LBC

Are you serious?

Farage looks even more ridiculous today than he did in 2016. At least to people like me. He most certainly hasn't been proved right and if and when his connections with Cambridge Analytica ever reach the full light of day he could end up with a very big problem.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Feb 20 7.17pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The idea that the politicians and the Police as their "arm" are following a policy of "appeasement" over the grooming gangs, or any other issue, is simply ridiculous.

The OED defines appeasement as:

"the act of making somebody calmer or less angry by giving them what they want."

No-one is giving anyone what they want. They are giving them what they deserve. Slowly perhaps. Much too slowly for some. Unforgivably inefficiently for others, but not what they want. Criminals always deserve to be brought to face justice. Criminals who use their background to try to hide themselves in communities none less than any other. It just makes the Police's job much harder.

You obviously haven't paid attention to today's finding of the Independent Child Abuse Inquiry

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse said there had been a "significant problem" of deference towards people of public prominence.

""Its report said political parties and police had turned a "blind eye".""

On LBC this afternoon the secretary of the Inquiry spoke well and dismissed many of the more absurd conspiracy theories. However he was very clear that people in position of power used their influence to escape justice themselves or to protect others.

This wasn't waffle he named names and gave specific instances where this had happened quoting senior police officers and others.

There was no Child Sex ring based in high places but individuals did get away with it and the elite were more interested in covering up then condemning. Just listen to the weasel words of David Steel this afternoon not one word of an apology but poor me I've been made a scapegoat.

If you think that the police are not influenced by the higher ups then you are naive to say the least.

Maybe this has now changed for the better and police can now investigate without fear of reprisal but the nub of the report was that politicians are more interested in protecting reputations than justice. Across the country time and time again we hear that the local councils and police were warned and did nothing this is a cover up culture which hopefully will now end.

Edited by Badger11 (25 Feb 2020 7.18pm)

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Feb 20 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Those are Trumplike tactics. You surely don't want to imitate him do you?

Trump is a 70 plus year old man married to a foreigner half his age. Why would I want to emulate a man like that

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 7.31pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


These political threads have become so tedious now and aside from the repetition that we are all guilty of, there is one obvious culprit.

A boring narcissistic know all who lives in a bubble of his own making.

As I never imagined that I might be able to curtail right wing rhetoric that would be quite a bonus result. Thanks for the heads up.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Feb 20 7.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I never imagined that I might be able to curtail right wing rhetoric that would be quite a bonus result. Thanks for the heads up.

Dream on.

All you have done is bore any potential reader senseless with you dismal twaddle and confirm to anyone in doubt that you talk a lot of old crap.

If anything, you are the best motivation for moving to the right I have seen on here.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 7.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

You obviously haven't paid attention to today's finding of the Independent Child Abuse Inquiry

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse said there had been a "significant problem" of deference towards people of public prominence.

""Its report said political parties and police had turned a "blind eye".""

On LBC this afternoon the secretary of the Inquiry spoke well and dismissed many of the more absurd conspiracy theories. However he was very clear that people in position of power used their influence to escape justice themselves or to protect others.

This wasn't waffle he named names and gave specific instances where this had happened quoting senior police officers and others.

There was no Child Sex ring based in high places but individuals did get away with it and the elite were more interested in covering up then condemning. Just listen to the weasel words of David Steel this afternoon not one word of an apology but poor me I've been made a scapegoat.

If you think that the police are not influenced by the higher ups then you are naive to say the least.

Maybe this has now changed for the better and police can now investigate without fear of reprisal but the nub of the report was that politicians are more interested in protecting reputations than justice. Across the country time and time again we hear that the local councils and police were warned and did nothing this is a cover up culture which hopefully will now end.

Edited by Badger11 (25 Feb 2020 7.18pm)

I did read that but haven't yet studied the report in any detail. I agree though that at first sight it doesn't look good.

Like all things we can always be wise after the event. We live in different times now, with different standards and expectations. That's not an excuse. Just a statement of reality. The important thing is to keep on learning and reacting. As you suggest.

You cannot have it both ways. Society has progressed and become more inclusive and we have had to adapt to the consequences. Yet some resist that.

I think though there is a big danger in trying to judge yesterday's events by today's standards. In everything. What we need to do is use yesterday's mistakes to be better tomorrow.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 7.53pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Surely this depends on who is being appeased? In terms of the definition quoted that is exactly what happened because investigations were not being carried out as expediently as possible.

That's not what they wanted was it?

What they wanted was to get away with it.

What they got was slower than some might like but still did, and is continuing to, deliver justice.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Feb 20 7.55pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Trump is a 70 plus year old man married to a foreigner half his age. Why would I want to emulate a man like that

Trump will still be using Trumpian tactics when he is 90!

It's the tactics, not the age, that I was referring to.

 


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