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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Sep 19 2.07am

Tick Tock.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Sep 19 6.21am

Originally posted by DanH

Must have missed your reply to this, ME. Feel free to correct me as and when.

[Link] Link for you as you're obviously too lazy to research it yourself

 

DanH Flag SW2 19 Sep 19 6.44am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

[Link] Link for you as you're obviously too lazy to research it yourself

You really are making a tit of yourself here.

You realise that just because he’s not involved in the day to day running doesn’t stop him being an active member and taking a profit share right?

Edited by DanH (19 Sep 2019 6.45am)

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Sep 19 7.22am

Originally posted by DanH

You really are making a tit of yourself here.

You realise that just because he’s not involved in the day to day running doesn’t stop him being an active member and taking a profit share right?

You are happy to accuse others of making a tit of themselves so why not go back and read what I was responding to instead of making a tit of yourself

 

DanH Flag SW2 19 Sep 19 7.33am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You are happy to accuse others of making a tit of themselves so why not go back and read what I was responding to instead of making a tit of yourself

Reading what you were responding to is exactly why I responded to you in the first place. Even the article you posted yourself backs up my point.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Sep 19 7.57am

Originally posted by DanH

Reading what you were responding to is exactly why I responded to you in the first place. Even the article you posted yourself backs up my point.

What part did you have difficulty in understanding? Was it "He will remain a partner but will no longer be involved in the management of the company. His stake of between 15 and 20% will be placed into a blind trust while he is a minister."

For the sake of the hard of understanding Jacob Rees-Mogg has exactly the same relationship with the operation of the hedgefund as George Soros does with his trust


 

DanH Flag SW2 19 Sep 19 8.06am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

What part did you have difficulty in understanding? Was it "He will remain a partner but will no longer be involved in the management of the company. His stake of between 15 and 20% will be placed into a blind trust while he is a minister."

For the sake of the hard of understanding Jacob Rees-Mogg has exactly the same relationship with the operation of the hedgefund as George Soros does with his trust


1) Do you acknowledge that, whether his stake is in blind trust or not, he remains an active LLP member of that business?

2) That even by being in blind trust, with a sizeable stake and intimate knowledge of how the business is run, that he knows that he can still directly influence markets with political decisions?

 

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 19 Sep 19 8.19am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are at it again aren't you? Insults are no substitute for debate nor lies for the truth. Just because you have read something on Facebook or in the Daily Mail or Sun doesn't mean it's true.

I gave you the real facts. They are all on the public record so go check them out if you refuse to believe me. Gina Miller was one of several founders of "Best for Britain" who did receive some funding from one of the Soros foundations but she left them in 2017 as they were becoming, in her opinion, too political. She has not, so far as anyone knows, received any funding either directly from him, or via his foundation, for the court cases. These have been crowdfunded.

I actually agree that it ought not be down to an individual citizen to have to raise such an important matter in Court or to have to fund it themselves in some way. This ought to be the responsibility of us all and paid for through taxation.

That is what I said so why you go into a long drawn out answer I just do not know.....as I have said before you are a know it all and a trouble making person. We just cannot debate with you as others have said. You are pathetic!!!!

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Sep 19 8.20am

Originally posted by DanH


1) Do you acknowledge that, whether his stake is in blind trust or not, he remains an active LLP member of that business?

2) That even by being in blind trust, with a sizeable stake and intimate knowledge of how the business is run, that he knows that he can still directly influence markets with political decisions?

1) No. He is a minister of the Crown and therefore not allowed to have an active interest in a company

2) Rees-Mogg's relationship with the company is exactly the same as George Soros's relationship with his trust

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 19 Sep 19 8.26am

New @YouGov poll for the times . YouGov Con 32 (nc) LD 23 (+4) Lab 21 (-2) BXP 14 (nc) Green 4 (-3)

 

DanH Flag SW2 19 Sep 19 9.53am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

1) No. He is a minister of the Crown and therefore not allowed to have an active interest in a company

2) Rees-Mogg's relationship with the company is exactly the same as George Soros's relationship with his trust

1) [Link]

2) So to follow your logic with JRM, Soros has nothing to do with it?

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Sep 19 10.00am

Originally posted by DanH


1) [Link]

2) So to follow your logic with JRM, Soros has nothing to do with it?

I'm not wasting any more time arguing with you as you either have learning difficulties or else you are just arguing for the sake of it and it's difficult to say which is correct going by your responses

 

DanH Flag SW2 19 Sep 19 10.18am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I'm not wasting any more time arguing with you as you either have learning difficulties or else you are just arguing for the sake of it and it's difficult to say which is correct going by your responses

Classy response.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 19 Sep 19 10.20am

Originally posted by dollardays

New @YouGov poll for the times . YouGov Con 32 (nc) LD 23 (+4) Lab 21 (-2) BXP 14 (nc) Green 4 (-3)

Noticed the switch away from Corbyn to Libdems there.

Because they offer an end to brexit IMO.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Sep 19 10.31am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Noticed the switch away from Corbyn to Libdems there.

Because they offer an end to brexit IMO.

And it's not a surprise since Labour are offering the daftest option.

Those who support democracy will be voting Tory or Brexit Party next time.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Sep 19 10.51am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Noticed the switch away from Corbyn to Libdems there.

Because they offer an end to brexit IMO.

More likely that no-one really knows what Labour offers.

In any event I would imagine that the polls won't bear much resemblance to what will actually happen if a General Election is called.

When it comes to the crunch will people vote for a party who's current MPs include so many deserters from the main parties in it and who only have their approach to Brexit in common and will they switch their vote to Liberal Democrat knowing that if enough others did it Jo Swinson would end up as Prime Minister

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 19 Sep 19 11.06am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

More likely that no-one really knows what Labour offers.

In any event I would imagine that the polls won't bear much resemblance to what will actually happen if a General Election is called.

When it comes to the crunch will people vote for a party who's current MPs include so many deserters from the main parties in it and who only have their approach to Brexit in common and will they switch their vote to Liberal Democrat knowing that if enough others did it Jo Swinson would end up as Prime Minister

I think most people will vote on a Brexit position and very little else when this GE comes round - Lib Dems are positioning themselves well and will sweep up most of the remain voters.

Labour’s position is a farce.

 

YT Flag Oxford 19 Sep 19 11.30am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

More likely that no-one really knows what Labour offers.

In any event I would imagine that the polls won't bear much resemblance to what will actually happen if a General Election is called.

When it comes to the crunch will people vote for a party who's current MPs include so many deserters from the main parties in it and who only have their approach to Brexit in common and will they switch their vote to Liberal Democrat knowing that if enough others did it Jo Swinson would end up as Prime Minister

I don't want to take part in this Brexit debate, but at the weekend I read or heard a commentator say that Labour seems to be 'Leave' in the north and 'Remain' in the south. I offer no political stance; merely that it made me chuckle.

Edited by YT (19 Sep 2019 11.30am)

 


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Matov Flag 19 Sep 19 11.37am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Labour’s position is a farce.

To be fair to them, and it is not something I like doing, they are the definition of being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Because they must look at the constituency breakdown of both the June 23rd referendum and the more recent Euro elections and shudder.

Because that paints the picture for them. For me, Corbyns attempt to keep walking the tight-rope actually makes rational sense because if they were to openly adopt a full on Remain stance, they would be finished.

Labour did well in 2017 with a clear commitment to respect the referendum result. And now they support a second referendum. Not going to play well hence why they are bottling a GE.

Corbyn is the smart one in that he knows this. What I struggle to understand is the people around him who seem unable to look at a basic map of how the UK has voted on the issue of Europe on the last two occasions it was asked.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 19 Sep 19 11.56am

Corbyn's position is not a farce and it is clear to me.

But it is wrong because it continues the brexit saga 'ad infinitum'.

In fact all the options, including especially 'no deal' where the UK will have to apply for a trade deal which will take years, reinforce brexit longevity.

There is no closure here, only cancelling offers that.

Cancelling is also the only thing the UK has the power to do.

The rest has been give away all for some leave fantasy.

The UK's position, its reputation people wonder what is going on here doesn't even have a parliament.

 

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