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 the silurian  The garden of England.(not really) 19 Sep 19 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course, but it's also unfair to taint them all with the same brush as some do. Well you only named 2 ok MPs, that means only 648 are crooked.......
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Sep 19 9.46pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Are you totally stupid??? I said that she did receive money from the group Soros paid into and then went to getting money from the public as she is now. Please do not twist things around.
Mrs Miller did not receive any money from "Best for Britain" to fund her court cases, but that's not what you claimed anyway. You claimed Soros did it himself. "Best for Britain" received their donation from a Soros funded foundation, which is run under it's own management. Which is not what you claimed but is actually confirmed in the links you provided. See below. Not in the headline. Buried in the text. It was not from him personally. These are you own words:- "Gina MIller has been funded all the way through these court cases and still is. Soros did it first and now she has switched to begging for cash online to try and beat the government." "He has donated over 700k to 3 groups opposing Brexit...personally not through the foundations....400k to the group that Gina Miller belonged in to."
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Sep 19 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Well you only named 2 ok MPs, that means only 648 are crooked....... As I said many others are and just gave a couple of examples I hope that's your effort at humour!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Sep 19 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
RSI Repetitive Strain Injury and obsessions with parliamentary procedure? Good joke but no with issues with the Home Office when Teresa May was Home Secretary.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 19 Sep 19 10.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As I said many others are and just gave a couple of examples I hope that's your effort at humour! not really, they are mostly crooked!
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jeeagles  19 Sep 19 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Is your housemate a member of the Hol by any chance? He sounds a little familiar. He wasnt literate enough
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Teddy Eagle  19 Sep 19 10.10pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
not really, they are mostly crooked! To be fair only 389 of them got caught up in the expenses scandal. So, yes, most of them.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Sep 19 10.10pm |
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Originally posted by W12
What we have now is a situation where a small number of unelected judges will be deciding what the elected government can and cannot do. Not a single talking head suggesting this is dangerous and undemocratic. That's because it isn't. We don't elect governments. We elect a Parliament. A government is formed by those who can command a majority within Parliament and that can change within the lifetime of any Parliament. The Justices will hopefully establish that the principle of Parliament's supremacy over the executive remains intact. Anything less really is a threat to our democracy.
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| jeeagles 19 Sep 19 10.12pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Well you only named 2 ok MPs, that means only 648 are crooked....... I'm with Wisbech here. Pretty much all MP's, even Corbyn, have good intentions. For what they do, the wages are pants in comparison to how much responsibility they (should) have, the hours are long, the stress is huge, and the security is rubbish. The poor decision making comes in generally when people are desperate to keep their jobs to pay their mortgage. That's more of a fault with the system, rather than the person. This problem might even justify why MEPs get such a ridiculous good package.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 19 Sep 19 10.20pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
To be fair only 389 of them got caught up in the expenses scandal. So, yes, most of them. Exactly, mostly bent/crooked/liars etc etc
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 19 Sep 19 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I'm with Wisbech here. Pretty much all MP's, even Corbyn, have good intentions. For what they do, the wages are pants in comparison to how much responsibility they (should) have, the hours are long, the stress is huge, and the security is rubbish. The poor decision making comes in generally when people are desperate to keep their jobs to pay their mortgage. That's more of a fault with the system, rather than the person. This problem might even justify why MEPs get such a ridiculous good package. so why do so many want to be MPs? They know the terms and conditions, so why do they want to do it if its so terrible? Because it isnt, they make loads of money, massive expenses etc etc
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| davenotamonkey 20 Sep 19 12.41am |
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Behold: the left wing moral high ground.
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| dannyboy1978 20 Sep 19 7.19am |
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Thats no different to the grenfell effergy. Will this "singer" be going to coart for a hate crime?
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 20 Sep 19 7.45am |
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Originally posted by chris123
Is that a fact or an opinion? I think it was a joke, Chris.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 20 Sep 19 7.51am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
To be fair only 389 of them got caught up in the expenses scandal. So, yes, most of them. And the rest got away with it.
One more point |
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| jeeagles 20 Sep 19 8.45am |
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Originally posted by the silurian
so why do so many want to be MPs? They know the terms and conditions, so why do they want to do it if its so terrible? Because it isnt, they make loads of money, massive expenses etc etc Not that many people want to do it. There's about 1 MP per 100,000 people. At each election, assuming the incumbent wants to stay on, they'll probably be standing against 5 other people selected from very short, shortlists. You're still probably looking at about 1 in every 5,000 people wanting to become an MP. You ever get people who cant hold down a job (Corbyn) or people who've made their money wanting to do something better with their lifes (Hunt). £60,000 a year to be responsible for 100,000 with the risk of losing your job every 4 years isn't enough to attract decent talent.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 20 Sep 19 8.54am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Not that many people want to do it. There's about 1 MP per 100,000 people. At each election, assuming the incumbent wants to stay on, they'll probably be standing against 5 other people selected from very short, shortlists. You're still probably looking at about 1 in every 5,000 people wanting to become an MP. You ever get people who cant hold down a job (Corbyn) or people who've made their money wanting to do something better with their lifes (Hunt). £60,000 a year to be responsible for 100,000 with the risk of losing your job every 4 years isn't enough to attract decent talent. Its not just 60,000 a year though....its 79,000 + unlimited expenses (with no reciepts required) + subsidised bars restaurants + mortgages paid, long holidays + etc etc...so somewhat more than 60k a year Edited by the silurian (20 Sep 2019 8.57am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Sep 19 8.55am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
He wasnt literate enough Literacy doesn't appear to be a barrier to membership here and the opportunity to regularly present inciteful wisdom from the Alf Garnett school of political thought. I think your housemate would feel right at home and among friends so it might be a kindness to invite him to join. He might be very lonely out there in the real world.
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| Teddy Eagle 20 Sep 19 9.03am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Literacy doesn't appear to be a barrier to membership here and the opportunity to regularly present inciteful wisdom from the Alf Garnett school of political thought. I think your housemate would feel right at home and among friends so it might be a kindness to invite him to join. He might be very lonely out there in the real world. Alf Garnett’s views were satirical as are some of the comments on here. The tradition of the wind-up is alive and well on the HOL.
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