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Originally posted by nickgusset
Except, and this is my biggest fear about leaving,we'll probably be left with Dave the Cund gone. Bj as pm with Gove et al as a government with no manifesto... I haven't voted Labour since I was a spotty teenager, and that was a very long time ago. However, if BJ and Gove get anywhere near holding office I will again, despite the fact that I rate Corbyn, and his crew, as being very bad news for us. I cannot stand right wing politics and the idea of that lot having their hands on the tiller frightens me to death. Especially Gove, who I regard as a supreme example of everything which is wrong with politicians.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Well all of the reasons you've given are consequences of Tory policy. Any others? I'm bored with you now, you are only interested in an excuse to roll out your usual left wing s***e. We are talking about Europe not your bitter Tory hating blinkered twaddle.
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Originally posted by Willo
And the EU want to accelerate their "Accession". In fact the EU would like everyone in, one big 'Family', a 'United States of Europe'. I think the posts from turkish eagle and SloveniaDave have proved that you're the one guilty of falling for 'hogwash' from Farage and co.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I haven't voted Labour since I was a spotty teenager, and that was a very long time ago. However, if BJ and Gove get anywhere near holding office I will again, despite the fact that I rate Corbyn, and his crew, as being very bad news for us. I cannot stand right wing politics and the idea of that lot having their hands on the tiller frightens me to death. Especially Gove, who I regard as a supreme example of everything which is wrong with politicians. If you would vote for Corbyn over anyone then your credibility has just been reduced to less than zero. A return to the 1970's. No thanks.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you would vote for Corbyn over anyone then your credibility has just been reduced to less than zero. A return to the 1970's. No thanks. Let's have something other than anti intellectualistic answer from you mr the Ganger. What don't you like about Corbyn;'s policies? Many of which people of all political hues agree with.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you would vote for Corbyn over anyone then your credibility has just been reduced to less than zero. A return to the 1970's. No thanks. I would certainly hope that the Labour party come to their senses and find another leader more acceptable to moderate opinion. I see the Conservative party splitting after tomorrow. I also see the possibility of a grand coalition between the Remain side of the Tories and the moderate wing of the Labour party, if we do suffer a "Leave" vote. That way the moderate politicians could ensure we handle things as smoothly as possible, in what will be very difficult circumstances. Neither do I totally rule out a new offer being made by the EU, offering some form of modified, associate, membership which could then be put to the country in a follow up referendum. All the hot air, about this being the "final" deal may evaporate if the reality strikes. I hope we don't go collectively crazy, but if we do we still must hope that our parliament has enough balls to rescue us from our stupidity. They should not have allowed this to happen in the first place, and it only has to quieten, for ever, the right wing of the Conservative party. It has all gone horribly wrong so now it ought to fall to them to deal with it, even if doing so is effective political suicide.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I would certainly hope that the Labour party come to their senses and find another leader more acceptable to moderate opinion. I see the Conservative party splitting after tomorrow. I also see the possibility of a grand coalition between the Remain side of the Tories and the moderate wing of the Labour party, if we do suffer a "Leave" vote. That way the moderate politicians could ensure we handle things as smoothly as possible, in what will be very difficult circumstances. Neither do I totally rule out a new offer being made by the EU, offering some form of modified, associate, membership which could then be put to the country in a follow up referendum. All the hot air, about this being the "final" deal may evaporate if the reality strikes. I hope we don't go collectively crazy, but if we do we still must hope that our parliament has enough balls to rescue us from our stupidity. They should not have allowed this to happen in the first place, and it only has to quieten, for ever, the right wing of the Conservative party. It has all gone horribly wrong so now it ought to fall to them to deal with it, even if doing so is effective political suicide. If you are saying we need a moderate government then I agree. Corbyn is unacceptable to most and Gove and Osborne are not my favorite Tories.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Let's have something other than anti intellectualistic answer from you mr the Ganger. What don't you like about Corbyn;'s policies? Many of which people of all political hues agree with. The more you post the more daft you sound. Corbyn is sub Michael Foot unelectable. Deal with it.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I think the posts from turkish eagle and SloveniaDave have proved that you're the one guilty of falling for 'hogwash' from Farage and co. I'm a member of the Conservative Party and not UKIP.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The more you post the more daft you sound. Corbyn is sub Michael Foot unelectable. Deal with it. No debate then. Again. Corbyn's policies have been portrayed by the mainstream media as some kind of lunatic far-left agenda with no public support, which is parroted by many including you Mr Ganger, but the evidence paints a completely different picture. Polls consistently show that a huge majority of British people believe that the NHS, the railways and the energy companies should be run as not-for-profit public services. Corbyn is speaking the people's language when he proposes renationalisation of the railways and opposes the ongoing Tory carve-up and privatisation of the NHS. There is widespread public support for the kinds of social democratic policies Jeremy Corbyn proposes, but the mainstream media like to frame the situation as if Corbyn is talking some kind of alien language that nobody but the far-left would ever agree with. Corbyn is so regularly described in the mainstream media as "left-wing", "radical" or "hard-left", while David Cameron is never described as being the "right-wing Prime Minister", despite the fact that he's pursuing an extremely right-wing economic agenda that goes way beyond what Margaret Thatcher managed to get away with in the 1980s.
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Originally posted by turkish eagle
Yeah ok. I'm 51. I will be getting my pension first. Is it possible to be a 'little bit racist?' A great read. Well done.
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VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Horrid devisive thing called by tories to try to stop them ripping themselves apart. Responsible in part for it suddenly becoming acceptable to be racist. Full of rumours snd supposition (I hear Chicken Licken reckons the sky will fall in.) Has the potential to be decided on raw emotion not fact Tomorrow could set us back years. BTW Corbyn not the answer. He has floated to the top as he is the 'mad amiable uncle' of the left, bit like the bete noir of the right Farage Correct on every count!
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Horrid devisive thing called by tories to try to stop them ripping themselves apart. Responsible in part for it suddenly becoming acceptable to be racist. Full of rumours snd supposition (I hear Chicken Licken reckons the sky will fall in.) Has the potential to be decided on raw emotion not fact Tomorrow could set us back years. BTW Corbyn not the answer. He has floated to the top as he is the 'mad amiable uncle' of the left, bit like the bete noir of the right Farage Grow up, sonny.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Corbyn is speaking the people's language when he proposes renationalisation of the railways and opposes the ongoing Tory carve-up and privatisation of the NHS. My reaction before going to bed :
As for "British Rail" : Edited by Willo (22 Jun 2016 11.36pm)
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Good Willo. I hope we vote leave. I suspect we won't but we should get out and turn back the clock with or without a wikigoogle
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I thought we could reform it from within? So much for democracy if we stay.
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Originally posted by BarEagle
Good Willo. I hope we vote leave. I suspect we won't but we should get out and turn back the clock with or without a wikigoogle As Churchill said "If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always chose the open sea". VOTE LEAVE
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The result of not lifting Turkish visa requirements: [Link]
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