Sorry - we are way off topic here - my fault - this is about the BBC which I don't admire - not the NHS which deep down I do admire!

I think there's a lot of truth to the reality that spending nearly 40 percent of the taxpayer pie should be more than enough.

Though I don't know that the NHS really corresponds well to running a business.....but in some areas it probably does and I think prior reforms tried to implement that.

It's an argument that's decades old now.....the right's concern over the ever widening expense of health provision and the left's continual pushing for its expansion.....the left and its media have turned the NHS into some kind of sacred cow, which makes any rational discussion on it difficult.

At the very least I think fresh eyes need to look again at the sustainability of the system. Something that's inevitable anyway given the coming economics.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jan 2022 6.28am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Sorry for continuing the off-topic but living in a country where when you have a medical issue you have to weigh the costs and if and when you can afford to get treatment does remind you how fortunate the UK is for having a free health system.

No-one advocates for the "sacking of tens of thousands of staff"!!!!

To suggest anyone would advocate such an idea is mind blowingly inept.

What is advocated is that those who can be vaccinated, should be vaccinated. The NHS is running endless information and reassurance campaigns to support the reluctant, so those who steadfastly and selfishly refuse will need to be redeployed to positions where they don't face the vulnerable.

As I have posted elsewhere the NHS now appears to face a dilemma. A choice between two unacceptable situations which has to be made. Lose staff, or send the wrong message over vaccination.

I would like to think that this has been a predetermined plan to try to increase the pressure on the reluctant, and there was never an intention to actually lose too many, but I certainly don't advocate sacking anyone.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

You will always get this kind of thing where-ever a huge bureaucracy exists. In your various posts you give the impression that you think a more "business" like approach would solve things. Perhaps you are unaware of just how much private enterprise is already involved in the NHS. Many services are provided on a commercial basis, under contract. This has been the trend for many years. Trying to balance the competing needs of providing the health service we all need in as efficient a way as possible cannot be easy. The NHS employs some highly experienced business managers, alongside its senior medical staff, to do just that so whilst throwing mud is an easy sport it isn't really that simple, because what you advocate already exists.

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What a surprise.

There are always a few outliers with different opinions. They exist in most situations. Nothing new there. Data can be interpreted in a variety of ways. Lies, damn lies and statistics! It's though the majority view which prevails, after listening to all.

That a right wing broadcaster promotes such an outlier, whilst others don't, is also hardly new.

Nothing to see here, beyond the reinforcing of prejudice.

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