So if remain win a second referendum why would we not claim that you didn’t know what you were voting for? For example, a European army of greater powers transferred to Brussels?

Seems a lot more likely than project fear.

At them moment, it's only remain pursuing legal cases. However, as every political option to leave the EU is being blocked. I wouldn't be surprised if leave start mounting Court cases soon.

Not semantics at all:

Black's Law Dictionary defines unlawful as "not authorized by law, illegal." Illegal is defined as "forbidden by law, unlawful"

Since there is nothing on the statute books about prorogation, or what may be considered an acceptable period of prorogation, it cannot possibly be illegal.

Since what Boris has done has not broken any Law, and given that HM the Queen gave her assent to his actions,and HM the Queen being above the Law as she IS the Law, one actually wonders whether the Supreme Court's judgement in this matter is enforceable.

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I’d maybe give yourself some rest get to bed mate, it’s been a stressful day for you.

I literally said earlier I don’t think it should be revoked. Mate

An equally valid point. We are in a mess. I stand by a straight no deal versus remain vote. At least it can be justified on the basis of a population standing firm or changing its mind. Labours new deal stitch up will just drag us through more st1t for years. And the lib dems revoke art 50 will poison democracy UNLESS (some hope) they win a GE majority.

Remain should not be on the ballot box I understand but it offers no answer where parliament which is supreme is predominantly remain.

Then Parliament should step up and take full responsibility. It has the right to ignore the result of June 23rd. That damages its credibility with absolute justification for our anger at it but at least it is taking the blame.

But to then go back to us with another referendum makes no sense what so ever. Because if it refuses to implement the first, why on earth would a second one have the slightest shred of credibility? In fact, there should be no more referendums full stop.

However there is the option of a GE. Let the partys declare their positions (and both Labour and the Lib-Dems have dramatically changed their stances) and put themselves to the scrutiny of the electorate in a manner that is binding in terms how the HoC is made up.

I genuinely struggle to understand why anybody would object to that in these circumstances.

We had a referendum on our future in the EU. Parliament has refused to implement it and parties representing a huge part of its members have changed their stance. Defend that at the ballot box. Let us see Parliamentary democracy in action. Let it regain some credibility. Surely that is the most positive option available.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Here, here.

Since we have unelected judges deciding over our actual PM as to when parliament can be prorogued and second guessing his motives....something I find extremely iffy and for me something beyond their remit. I suppose we have to move on.....But personally I think this has to come with consequences.

We now have an Attorney General and Queen willing to be regarded as idiots by the supreme court.

We literally have a zombie Queen.....what's the point when judges get to decide for her what she already has the power to approve or reject.

The parliament needs to be prorogued for the government to prepare its Queen Speech anyway and so let these clowns sit and waffle away until Johnson....apparently seeks the approval of....I don't know....what more than the Queen now? Does he have to ask the lawyers as well now?

It's a joke.

Whichever way they try to paint it the Queen has been made an embarrassment of.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 12.28am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It's a dog and pony show run by elites to ultimately stop Brexit via delay and frustration and warm worded BS.

Lets see if we leave on the 31st of October.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 12.37am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The law is not meant to be involved in political decisions.

This is unprecedenced.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)