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CrazyBadger Ware 05 Jul 21 1.39pm
Don't expect Fast free-flowing attacking football immediately. previous experience seems to suggest that he likes to build on a strong defence, which a) is fine be me and b) we don't have yet. I can see some losses early doors, but we must not panic. we also must not be cut adrift by xmas - but I think that's unlikely. Survival with some progress that we're moving in the right direction is my target. i.e. What Fulham did last year... without the relegation!! Anything more than that from the position we're in now will be a great bonus (but also completely achievable!) "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

CrazyBadger

Ware 05 Jul 21 1.39pm

Don't expect Fast free-flowing attacking football immediately. previous experience seems to suggest that he likes to build on a strong defence, which a) is fine be me and b) we don't have yet.

I can see some losses early doors, but we must not panic. we also must not be cut adrift by xmas - but I think that's unlikely.

Survival with some progress that we're moving in the right direction is my target. i.e. What Fulham did last year... without the relegation!!

Anything more than that from the position we're in now will be a great bonus (but also completely achievable!)

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

smoothmanuel bracknell 05 Jul 21 1.43pm
Correct he was sacked for losing 5 in a row but what did he do the 2 seasons before that???? he got them from 17th to 5th and then the season after finished 2nd on a shoe string budget . Maybe add this into your comment about being sacked afetr 5 games . Roy lost his first 4 games did we get relegated???? Originally posted by maddog He was sacked by Nice for losing 5 matches in a row! That’s just an average Christmas for Palace!

smoothmanuel

bracknell 05 Jul 21 1.43pm

Correct he was sacked for losing 5 in a row but what did he do the 2 seasons before that???? he got them from 17th to 5th and then the season after finished 2nd on a shoe string budget . Maybe add this into your comment about being sacked afetr 5 games . Roy lost his first 4 games did we get relegated????

Originally posted by maddog

He was sacked by Nice for losing 5 matches in a row! That’s just an average Christmas for Palace!

Harpo Oxfordshire 05 Jul 21 1.48pm
I wonder if in fact PV was the first choice. Not only has he achieved just about everything as a player, he should excite all those playing for him, he hopefully will have a good relationship with the press, but, and here's the rub, he might also be in a position to attract investment from the yanks. Who knows? The City Group might be interested in an outlet in the Premier League. So the stated war chest of £80m might be supplemented by a substantial investment from across the pond. Just saying. Certainly no other candidate had that obvious connection.

Harpo

Oxfordshire 05 Jul 21 1.48pm

I wonder if in fact PV was the first choice.

Not only has he achieved just about everything as a player, he should excite all those playing for him, he hopefully will have a good relationship with the press, but, and here's the rub, he might also be in a position to attract investment from the yanks.

Who knows? The City Group might be interested in an outlet in the Premier League. So the stated war chest of £80m might be supplemented by a substantial investment from across the pond.

Just saying.

Certainly no other candidate had that obvious connection.

Putitout Oxford 05 Jul 21 3.25pm
Originally posted by Harpo I wonder if in fact PV was the first choice. Not only has he achieved just about everything as a player, he should excite all those playing for him, he hopefully will have a good relationship with the press, but, and here's the rub, he might also be in a position to attract investment from the yanks. Who knows? The City Group might be interested in an outlet in the Premier League. So the stated war chest of £80m might be supplemented by a substantial investment from across the pond. Just saying. Certainly no other candidate had that obvious connection. Patrick, seems to have some very wealthy connections in the world of football, he was said to be involved in an attempt to buy into Arsenal. It must give food for thought. Possibly Parishes, thoughts.

Putitout

Oxford 05 Jul 21 3.25pm

Originally posted by Harpo

I wonder if in fact PV was the first choice.

Who knows? The City Group might be interested in an outlet in the Premier League. So the stated war chest of £80m might be supplemented by a substantial investment from across the pond.

Just saying.

Certainly no other candidate had that obvious connection.

Patrick, seems to have some very wealthy connections in the world of football, he was said to be involved in an attempt to buy into Arsenal. It must give food for thought. Possibly Parishes, thoughts.

Frickin Saweet South Cronx 05 Jul 21 3.26pm
don't want to be too demanding, but I really want to hear an interview with Vieira where he talks about why he wanted to come to Palace, and how he sees the task ahead. I know he'll have more pressing things to do, but you've got to play the media game as well. Hopefully he'll be at the training ground soon and our camera team can have 15 minutes with him

Frickin Saweet

South Cronx 05 Jul 21 3.26pm

don't want to be too demanding, but I really want to hear an interview with Vieira where he talks about why he wanted to come to Palace, and how he sees the task ahead. I know he'll have more pressing things to do, but you've got to play the media game as well. Hopefully he'll be at the training ground soon and our camera team can have 15 minutes with him

Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jul 21 4.29pm
Originally posted by Frickin Saweet don't want to be too demanding, but I really want to hear an interview with Vieira where he talks about why he wanted to come to Palace, and how he sees the task ahead. I know he'll have more pressing things to do, but you've got to play the media game as well. Hopefully he'll be at the training ground soon and our camera team can have 15 minutes with him The FDB one was complete bullsh1t and lies so apart from hearing him and feeling fuzzy inside, what goes on in matches and after the transfer window closes is what counts. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 05 Jul 21 4.29pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

The FDB one was complete bullsh1t and lies so apart from hearing him and feeling fuzzy inside, what goes on in matches and after the transfer window closes is what counts.

COYP

jeeagles 05 Jul 21 4.39pm
Originally posted by smoothmanuel Correct he was sacked for losing 5 in a row but what did he do the 2 seasons before that???? he got them from 17th to 5th and then the season after finished 2nd on a shoe string budget . Maybe add this into your comment about being sacked afetr 5 games . Roy lost his first 4 games did we get relegated???? That's the French for you

jeeagles

05 Jul 21 4.39pm

Originally posted by smoothmanuel

That's the French for you

Frickin Saweet South Cronx 05 Jul 21 4.54pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The FDB one was complete bullsh1t and lies so apart from hearing him and feeling fuzzy inside, what goes on in matches and after the transfer window closes is what counts. I just want to feel fuzzy inside before getting a punch in the face from reality when the season starts.

Frickin Saweet

South Cronx 05 Jul 21 4.54pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The FDB one was complete bullsh1t and lies so apart from hearing him and feeling fuzzy inside, what goes on in matches and after the transfer window closes is what counts.

I just want to feel fuzzy inside before getting a punch in the face from reality when the season starts.

TheBigToePunt 05 Jul 21 5.23pm
Originally posted by Frickin Saweet don't want to be too demanding, but I really want to hear an interview with Vieira where he talks about why he wanted to come to Palace, and how he sees the task ahead. I know he'll have more pressing things to do, but you've got to play the media game as well. Hopefully he'll be at the training ground soon and our camera team can have 15 minutes with him The club's press release contained some quotes from Vieira to the effect that he is excited by the opportunity and the academy and whatever else. Usual stuff. I'm sure the club will put out a lengthier in-house interview, plus the press will probably interview him too, but whether he'll go far beyond the usual platitudes or not remains to be seen.

TheBigToePunt

05 Jul 21 5.23pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

The club's press release contained some quotes from Vieira to the effect that he is excited by the opportunity and the academy and whatever else. Usual stuff.

I'm sure the club will put out a lengthier in-house interview, plus the press will probably interview him too, but whether he'll go far beyond the usual platitudes or not remains to be seen.

Red Al Reading 05 Jul 21 5.30pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger That would have been de Boer, and it didn't work at all. I hope Mr Vieira has a better relationship with the players and doesn't expect them all to be as good as he was. I was thinking of Steve Coppell, as FdB had managerial experience, whereas I don’t think Coppell had any…

Red Al

Reading 05 Jul 21 5.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That would have been de Boer, and it didn't work at all.

I hope Mr Vieira has a better relationship with the players and doesn't expect them all to be as good as he was.

I was thinking of Steve Coppell, as FdB had managerial experience, whereas I don’t think Coppell had any…

Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jul 21 5.32pm
Originally posted by Red Al I was thinking of Steve Coppell, as FdB had managerial experience, whereas I don’t think Coppell had any… So does Vieira.

Hrolf The Ganger

05 Jul 21 5.32pm

Originally posted by Red Al

I was thinking of Steve Coppell, as FdB had managerial experience, whereas I don’t think Coppell had any…

So does Vieira.

est1905 05 Jul 21 5.43pm
Originally posted by jeeagles There's a lot of dinosaurs in English football, sport, and establishment in general. Its easy to right off older heads with more experience as 'Dinosaurs' It makes younger participants feel all young, fresh and cool to make such comments. The reality is that there is good and bad in both. Would I want Neil Warnock appointed manager at Palace? Of course not. Equally, I most definitely wouldn't want either of the Neville brothers anywhere near my club either, despite the catchy soundbites they tend to come out with. In many cases experience will always trump youth and enthusiasm, regardless of whether they are accused of being dinosaurs or not.

est1905

05 Jul 21 5.43pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

There's a lot of dinosaurs in English football, sport, and establishment in general.

Its easy to right off older heads with more experience as 'Dinosaurs'
It makes younger participants feel all young, fresh and cool to make such comments.
The reality is that there is good and bad in both. Would I want Neil Warnock appointed manager at Palace? Of course not. Equally, I most definitely wouldn't want either of the Neville brothers anywhere near my club either, despite the catchy soundbites they tend to come out with.
In many cases experience will always trump youth and enthusiasm, regardless of whether they are accused of being dinosaurs or not.

orpingtoneagle Orpington 05 Jul 21 6.06pm
Anyone seen any concrete evidence he has actually started yet? Unless I have missed it haven't seen an interview or even a picture of him with a shirt. Be nice to know he has actually started work.

orpingtoneagle

Orpington 05 Jul 21 6.06pm

Anyone seen any concrete evidence he has actually started yet?

Unless I have missed it haven't seen an interview or even a picture of him with a shirt.

Be nice to know he has actually started work.

Midlands Eagle 05 Jul 21 6.16pm
Originally posted by Frickin Saweet don't want to be too demanding, but I really want to hear an interview with Vieira where he talks about why he wanted to come to Palace, and how he sees the task ahead. Why? It will only be the usual pre prepared nonsense and I'm sure that any one of us could guess the script in advance which is sure to include how impressed he was with the chairman's vision

Midlands Eagle

05 Jul 21 6.16pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

don't want to be too demanding, but I really want to hear an interview with Vieira where he talks about why he wanted to come to Palace, and how he sees the task ahead.

Why? It will only be the usual pre prepared nonsense and I'm sure that any one of us could guess the script in advance which is sure to include how impressed he was with the chairman's vision

rednblueblood 05 Jul 21 7.05pm
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle Anyone seen any concrete evidence he has actually started yet? Unless I have missed it haven't seen an interview or even a picture of him with a shirt. Be nice to know he has actually started work. Here you go. Attachment: 7CB412DD-4F69-46D6-A713-68D9871D2489.jpeg (1,238.93Kb) In dog beers I’ve only had one.

rednblueblood 05 Jul 21 7.05pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Anyone seen any concrete evidence he has actually started yet?

Unless I have missed it haven't seen an interview or even a picture of him with a shirt.

Be nice to know he has actually started work.

Here you go.

Attachment: 7CB412DD-4F69-46D6-A713-68D9871D2489.jpeg (1,238.93Kb)

In dog beers I’ve only had one.

Midlands Eagle 05 Jul 21 7.26pm
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle Anyone seen any concrete evidence he has actually started yet? Pictures of him taking training today on the club's website alongside a photo of Parish wearing an expensive blue suit and white trainers thus proving that no matter how wealthy you are you cannot buy class

Midlands Eagle

05 Jul 21 7.26pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Anyone seen any concrete evidence he has actually started yet?

Pictures of him taking training today on the club's website alongside a photo of Parish wearing an expensive blue suit and white trainers thus proving that no matter how wealthy you are you cannot buy class

babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 05 Jul 21 7.30pm
Originally posted by Frickin Saweet don't want to be too demanding, but I really want to hear an interview with Vieira where he talks about why he wanted to come to Palace, and how he sees the task ahead. I know he'll have more pressing things to do, but you've got to play the media game as well. Hopefully he'll be at the training ground soon and our camera team can have 15 minutes with him I'd rather he gets on with the job than fanny around with a camera crew. It will just be the same old flannel. "Its great to be here, the fans are fantastic, the club is fantastic, there are some great players here I am looking forward to working with" etc etc. I dont expect miracles but if he can give chelsea a good game in 5 weeks time then I'm interested in what hes got to say after that.

babylonjohn

St Leonards-on-Sea 05 Jul 21 7.30pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

I'd rather he gets on with the job than fanny around with a camera crew. It will just be the same old flannel. "Its great to be here, the fans are fantastic, the club is fantastic, there are some great players here I am looking forward to working with" etc etc.
I dont expect miracles but if he can give chelsea a good game in 5 weeks time then I'm interested in what hes got to say after that.

Tickled pink Cornwall 05 Jul 21 7.34pm
Originally posted by est1905 Its easy to right off older heads with more experience as 'Dinosaurs' It makes younger participants feel all young, fresh and cool to make such comments. The reality is that there is good and bad in both. Would I want Neil Warnock appointed manager at Palace? Of course not. Equally, I most definitely wouldn't want either of the Neville brothers anywhere near my club either, despite the catchy soundbites they tend to come out with. In many cases experience will always trump youth and enthusiasm, regardless of whether they are accused of being dinosaurs or not. Youth has to discover experience from somewhere, are you suggesting that it cannot come from a club in our position ..and how long should it realistically take for a manager with the on field experience of Vieira to be afforded the luxury?

Tickled pink

Cornwall 05 Jul 21 7.34pm

Originally posted by est1905

Its easy to right off older heads with more experience as 'Dinosaurs'
It makes younger participants feel all young, fresh and cool to make such comments.
The reality is that there is good and bad in both. Would I want Neil Warnock appointed manager at Palace? Of course not. Equally, I most definitely wouldn't want either of the Neville brothers anywhere near my club either, despite the catchy soundbites they tend to come out with.
In many cases experience will always trump youth and enthusiasm, regardless of whether they are accused of being dinosaurs or not.

Youth has to discover experience from somewhere, are you suggesting that it cannot come from a club in our position ..and how long should it realistically take for a manager with the on field experience of Vieira to be afforded the luxury?

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Jul 21 7.35pm
Originally posted by rednblueblood Here you go. Thanks. Any without the squad? Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Jul 21 7.35pm

Originally posted by rednblueblood

Here you go.

Thanks.
Any without the squad?

Red and Blue Army!

kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 05 Jul 21 7.52pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Pictures of him taking training today on the club's website alongside a photo of Parish wearing an expensive blue suit and white trainers thus proving that no matter how wealthy you are you cannot buy class scruff Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

kingdowieonthewall

Sussex, ex-Cronx. 05 Jul 21 7.52pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

scruff

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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