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 Palace Old Geezer  Midhurst 31 Jul 23 10.49am |
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Franca will be a stunning addition to our squad. Much sought after by some big clubs so it looks like Dougie and team have pulled off something of a coup. I'm really looking forward to the start of the season. Wilf who?
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| MrRobbo Purley 31 Jul 23 11.02am |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
Franca will be a stunning addition to our squad. Much sought after by some big clubs so it looks like Dougie and team have pulled off something of a coup. I'm really looking forward to the start of the season. Wilf who? Lets hope so. Its a relatively large amount of money to spend on a lad with very little senior experience. I suspect we wont see much of him for a while, especially with Roy's hesitancy to risk people too quickly
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| ambrose7 Croydon 31 Jul 23 11.24am |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Lets hope so. Its a relatively large amount of money to spend on a lad with very little senior experience. I suspect we wont see much of him for a while, especially with Roy's hesitancy to risk people too quickly It's not even a Roy thing - Olise made his debut for us in the September after injury but started only 2 games before January '22 due to how much there is to learn - especially if he's playing on the left due to our left back situation looking comparatively shaky. Franca should arrive fit, but his season started in April so there's a burn out risk of over-use throughout the season too.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 31 Jul 23 11.36am |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Lets hope so. Its a relatively large amount of money to spend on a lad with very little senior experience. I suspect we wont see much of him for a while, especially with Roy's hesitancy to risk people too quickly
Realistically, if he's coming to SP this week he's unlikely to feature in the opening game of the season. He's coming to a new country (does he speak any English? - could be difficult settling in quickly if he doesn't). He will benefit from seeing some league games live in the flesh. The PL tends to be a tougher league to adapt to than other leagues. Furthermore, he has to earn his place in the team on the training ground. He may be a "wonderkid" in Brazil but that doesn't automatically translate to being a star in the PL. Having spent what we have on him, I'm sure our management team will put him in the starting XI when he's deemed ready. Like others I look forward to seeing when that will be and hope that we fans will give him our full support and time to adjust to the pace and rigours of the PL. Edited by doombear (31 Jul 2023 11.37am)
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Crystal_Clear  Belfast 31 Jul 23 11.46am |
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I wonder if this really a signing for next season. He is listed as an attacking midfielder, which is of course the position of Eze. The way he is playing I cannot foresee us hanging onto Eze beyond this season (especially as there are reports of him rejecting an extended contract). Barring any unforeseen events, I suspect we will being selling Eze next summer for a large fee and Franca will be stepping into the role but with some PL experience now. We maybe following the Brighton plan where we only sell one major player per year. This year we have lost Zaha, next summer Eze, perhaps Olise the year after. We just need to make sure we have quality replacements lined up. Maybe in 3 years time we will be selling on Franca for 70-80m. If so, this model should be very financially beneficial.
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| MrRobbo Purley 31 Jul 23 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Crystal_Clear
I wonder if this really a signing for next season. He is listed as an attacking midfielder, which is of course the position of Eze. The way he is playing I cannot foresee us hanging onto Eze beyond this season (especially as there are reports of him rejecting an extended contract). Barring any unforeseen events, I suspect we will being selling Eze next summer for a large fee and Franca will be stepping into the role but with some PL experience now. We maybe following the Brighton plan where we only sell one major player per year. This year we have lost Zaha, next summer Eze, perhaps Olise the year after. We just need to make sure we have quality replacements lined up. Maybe in 3 years time we will be selling on Franca for 70-80m. If so, this model should be very financially beneficial. I did wonder this. With both his experience and seemingly playing through the middle. But we do have a Zaha gap to fill....so we might still see another LW come in? Suspect we wont see much of him for a while, but still a very exciting acquisition. Talk is of him being the next Vinny Jr, which would be pretty sweet
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 31 Jul 23 12.04pm |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
I did wonder this. With both his experience and seemingly playing through the middle. But we do have a Zaha gap to fill....so we might still see another LW come in? Suspect we wont see much of him for a while, but still a very exciting acquisition. Talk is of him being the next Vinny Jr, which would be pretty sweet According to 'The Boot Room' he has been compared to and called 'the next De Bruyne' - [Link] Interesting to see whether he is a flying, skilful winger (which you tend to think of with Brazilians) a creative midfielder, attacking (goalscoring) player or a combination of two or three of these! I think my head scratching atm is around where he fits into team? I understand the comments around 'Eze replacement/not for this season' however for the sum we are paying I'd be shocked if there was no intention to put him straight in.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 31 Jul 23 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by doombear
Realistically, if he's coming to SP this week he's unlikely to feature in the opening game of the season. He's coming to a new country (does he speak any English? - could be difficult settling in quickly if he doesn't). He will benefit from seeing some league games live in the flesh. The PL tends to be a tougher league to adapt to than other leagues. Furthermore, he has to earn his place in the team on the training ground. He may be a "wonderkid" in Brazil but that doesn't automatically translate to being a star in the PL. Having spent what we have on him, I'm sure our management team will put him in the starting XI when he's deemed ready. Like others I look forward to seeing when that will be and hope that we fans will give him our full support and time to adjust to the pace and rigours of the PL. Edited by doombear (31 Jul 2023 11.37am) He speaks Portugese as do 90% of Brazilians, Roy also speaks it as well, not sure if Lerma does tho, as for his English, he'll pick up what he needs to very quickly, tho he might have to be taught what he can & cannot say on the pitch . . .
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 31 Jul 23 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Lets hope so. Its a relatively large amount of money to spend on a lad with very little senior experience. I suspect we wont see much of him for a while, especially with Roy's hesitancy to risk people too quickly 'Because you can't win anything with kids' as an expert once said.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 31 Jul 23 12.48pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
He speaks Portugese as do 90% of Brazilians, Roy also speaks it as well, not sure if Lerma does tho, as for his English, he'll pick up what he needs to very quickly, tho he might have to be taught what he can & cannot say on the pitch . . .
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| MonsterMunch Cambridge 31 Jul 23 12.59pm |
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I'd be disappointed if we blew what you would imagine is the majority of our budget on a player we had no intention of using this season.. however flip side, he's highly likely going to need some form of integration to the team process. Will be a lot to ask of the young lad to hit the ground running..hence why I hope we've got a CHO or Gray still up our sleeve
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 31 Jul 23 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by MonsterMunch
I'd be disappointed if we blew what you would imagine is the majority of our budget on a player we had no intention of using this season.. however flip side, he's highly likely going to need some form of integration to the team process. Will be a lot to ask of the young lad to hit the ground running..hence why I hope we've got a CHO or Gray still up our sleeve Agree with all of that. Perhaps he'll be used as an impact sub if needed until the right game comes along to maybe start him (Forest at home 7th Oct. for instance)? Either that or the evidence for him starting is so overwhelming he'll be included.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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