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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Sep 19 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What has he lied about? He admitted having sex with Abbott but she has never confirmed it.
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the silurian  The garden of England.(not really) 30 Sep 19 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
He admitted having sex with Abbott but she has never confirmed it. That alone should disqualify him from ever being a PM or even an MP....
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 30 Sep 19 4.54pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Stop talking down to people like you are some kind of superior being!! He always does and wont change I am afraid.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 30 Sep 19 4.55pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Brexit. But he's always been an ambivalent Eurosceptic, and even as the Remainiacs in his party have been doing everything they can to force his hand, he's stuck with the line he's kept since the referendum: respect the result, get a good deal and if impossible, put it back to the people. He would be a liar if he was backing Remain, but he's not.
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 30 Sep 19 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What has he lied about? He said he wasn't anti semetic.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 30 Sep 19 5.05pm |
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Originally posted by sickboy
He said he wasn't anti semetic. And what did he say in your opinion that was anti-semitic?
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| silvertop Portishead 30 Sep 19 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
But he's always been an ambivalent Eurosceptic, and even as the Remainiacs in his party have been doing everything they can to force his hand, he's stuck with the line he's kept since the referendum: respect the result, get a good deal and if impossible, put it back to the people. He would be a liar if he was backing Remain, but he's not. He said he voted remain. For an arch brexiteer how does one trust a man who can't even speak truth to himself?
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| silvertop Portishead 30 Sep 19 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
And what did he say in your opinion that was anti-semitic? On this I am with you. Sympathy to the Palestinian cause is not anti semitic. It is anti Israeli govt policy. Different thing. Failing to properly address the issue in his party smacks of ineptitude rather than alignment with the view.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 30 Sep 19 6.19pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
He said he voted remain. For an arch brexiteer how does one trust a man who can't even speak truth to himself? In politics it is seen as a crime to admit to ambivalence. That's essentially what he did in the referendum, but probably voted remain for the same reason I (nearly) did: because he couldn't support a cause that was being led by some of the most odious Tories in the country. Let's remember what Johnson has said. He wrote editorials in the Spectator praising the EU throughout the noughties, consistently said he wasn't interested in being PM and lied to the queen about prorogation. In fact, if you really went through his past, I think you could find a passionate stance on both sides of every major issue of the past 30 years. Is Corbyn perfect? No. Is he better than another entitled, unprincipled opportunist formed in the corridors of Eton? Of course. Edited by serial thriller (30 Sep 2019 6.20pm)
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 30 Sep 19 6.56pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
In politics it is seen as a crime to admit to ambivalence. That's essentially what he did in the referendum, but probably voted remain for the same reason I (nearly) did: because he couldn't support a cause that was being led by some of the most odious Tories in the country. Let's remember what Johnson has said. He wrote editorials in the Spectator praising the EU throughout the noughties, consistently said he wasn't interested in being PM and lied to the queen about prorogation. In fact, if you really went through his past, I think you could find a passionate stance on both sides of every major issue of the past 30 years. Is Corbyn perfect? No. Is he better than another entitled, unprincipled opportunist formed in the corridors of Eton? Of course. Edited by serial thriller (30 Sep 2019 6.20pm) How many times...he DIDNT lie to the Queen.....see the court report!
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 30 Sep 19 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
On this I am with you. Sympathy to the Palestinian cause is not anti semitic. It is anti Israeli govt policy. Different thing. Failing to properly address the issue in his party smacks of ineptitude rather than alignment with the view. So he never had any links to holocaust denialists then?
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| silvertop Portishead 30 Sep 19 7.10pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
In politics it is seen as a crime to admit to ambivalence. That's essentially what he did in the referendum, but probably voted remain for the same reason I (nearly) did: because he couldn't support a cause that was being led by some of the most odious Tories in the country. Let's remember what Johnson has said. He wrote editorials in the Spectator praising the EU throughout the noughties, consistently said he wasn't interested in being PM and lied to the queen about prorogation. In fact, if you really went through his past, I think you could find a passionate stance on both sides of every major issue of the past 30 years. Is Corbyn perfect? No. Is he better than another entitled, unprincipled opportunist formed in the corridors of Eton? Of course. Edited by serial thriller (30 Sep 2019 6.20pm) Oh sorry the problem of jumping in late in a discussion. You were comparing the integrity of the 2 leaders. Not a fair comparison. Notwithstanding my comment and his supreme unelelectability Corbyn is basically jesus compared to that disingenuous toe rag Johnson in fact is that actually his name?? I wouldn't trust him that far. Sadly says more about the dimness of Tory grassroots that they trust and believe somebody so obviously duplicitous. I suppose he is posh so we must obey him. Thought that attitude died about 40 years ago
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 30 Sep 19 7.59pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Jeremy Corbyn is a decent upright man of considerable experience. In the Zaha phrase he is, 'just too good for them' and they bombard him with marxist accusations because they have no argument to offer. He may be wrong and I am not sure myself, but he is streets ahead of Johnson, and has seen off May. Provided the reason and operandi of a short interim administration is agreed, there is no reason why Corbyn cannot be trusted. He will be working for the people, not Crispin Odious or Lord Snooty and his band of chancers.
Edited by the silurian (30 Sep 2019 8.08pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 8.14pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are like a damaged robot. No one in Parliament or indeed the country seem to care for your interpretation.
Parliament as whole is exactly in line with my interpretation, or more accurately I am with their's. They just don't say it in quite the same way I suspect for fear of alienating people like you even more.
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| silvertop Portishead 30 Sep 19 8.34pm |
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Originally posted by sickboy
So he never had any links to holocaust denialists then? Links hmm. How strong in terms of both "links" and supporting evidence? And please no dodgy news feeds. Something reliable.
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| silvertop Portishead 30 Sep 19 8.38pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Jeremy Corbyn is a decent upright man of considerable experience. In the Zaha phrase he is, 'just too good for them' and they bombard him with marxist accusations because they have no argument to offer. He may be wrong and I am not sure myself, but he is streets ahead of Johnson, and has seen off May. Provided the reason and operandi of a short interim administration is agreed, there is no reason why Corbyn cannot be trusted. He will be working for the people, not Crispin Odious or Lord Snooty and his band of chancers. If he gets the ticket it will elevate his status and protect some labour remain votes which are driftig libdemwards. They would rather Ken Clarke or pretty much anyone else. The tories both present an recently past wont support him for obvious reasons. Wont happen.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 30 Sep 19 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Parliament as whole is exactly in line with my interpretation, or more accurately I am with their's. They just don't say it in quite the same way I suspect for fear of alienating people like you even more. What matters to Parliament is votes.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 10.13pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Stop talking down to people like you are some kind of superior being!! Why on earth do you seem to think I was "talking down" to you? It was a tongue in cheek aside. Maybe you left your sense of humour at home this morning! No offence was intended.
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