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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 10.23pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I politely ask you to stop replying to me. I wonder if others can see the hypocrisy of these repeated requests? Not only have they been declined many times, for logical and carefully explained reasons, but they come from someone who has frequently complained about freedom of speech issues. I have read complaints that "Robinson" having his social media accounts deleted is to restrict his freedom of speech when in fact the social media companies did so because they considered their rules to have been breached. It's their ball and they can decide who plays with it. Now we have someone attempting, politely of course, to get me to refrain from posting comments, thus attempting to restrict my freedom of speech. If anybody says anything here then we are all free to add our thoughts, so long as we don't transgress the rules. Just because you have decided that you don't like the responses doesn't mean they cannot be made. You don't have to read them. No-one does. That's a free choice. Others might want to. That's their choice and no-one else's.
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Teddy Eagle  14 Jul 19 10.28pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You can cherry pick the Bible too, if you want to find outrageous, out of era, quotes. Religious texts written for another time should never be taken literally. Of course it's true that some do, which is why we need to educate and enable people to think things through for themselves. And your evidence that this plan would work is...?
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| Stirlingsays Online 14 Jul 19 10.29pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
The only element that seems strange is if he was aware of the issue for 20 years yet nothing appears to have been done about it and he himself wasn't banging the drum. I suspect an exaggeration. This is an area of so much smoke and mirrors and it's very hard to know anything approaching the truth. But don't use me as a proxy, if you want to do battle with Wisbech have at it, not my problem. I merely commented that you seem incredibly emotionally involved in an unhealthy way. And not really in respect of the poor abused girls, more about a feeling that the Robinson persona is being mistreated. I have no sympathy with that view. I say this as someone that has been banging the drum about Shirley Oaks for many years and just felt like I was punching custard. You do know it's non-Newtonian right?
It's fair to say I know of some cases far more than I do others but that doesn't mean that they don't matter....they do matter. It also fair to say that the grooming gangs issue is only one of the reasons I generally support Robinson.....it's a pretty big thing in his favour but knowing his views I'd say I'd agree with him...probably on 70 percent of stuff. I follow people who say stuff I don't agree with on lower percentages than that......I tend towards social conservatism...In my estimation....the only people talking any truth in society these days are considered persona non grata......even those who I would consider left wing like Tim Pool and pretty far left like Jimmy Dore. What is true is more important than what is convenient.....unfortunately I don't feel this is the way elites like to run society.....they prefer consumerist sheep who stay in their place. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2019 10.30pm)
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| Stirlingsays Online 14 Jul 19 10.32pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I wonder if others can see the hypocrisy of these repeated requests? Not only have they been declined many times, for logical and carefully explained reasons, but they come from someone who has frequently complained about freedom of speech issues. I have read complaints that "Robinson" having his social media accounts deleted is to restrict his freedom of speech when in fact the social media companies did so because they considered their rules to have been breached. It's their ball and they can decide who plays with it. Now we have someone attempting, politely of course, to get me to refrain from posting comments, thus attempting to restrict my freedom of speech. If anybody says anything here then we are all free to add our thoughts, so long as we don't transgress the rules. Just because you have decided that you don't like the responses doesn't mean they cannot be made. You don't have to read them. No-one does. That's a free choice. Others might want to. That's their choice and no-one else's. I politely ask you to stop replying to me.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 10.33pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are one of the most self righteous people I have come across online and that is saying something. Have you realised how wrong you are about our replacement yet? The people who made these decisions will be long dead and won't see how they have destroyed the future of our culture and threatened our very existence. People like you swallow the propaganda you are fed and actually celebrate the policy that will lead to our extinction. No, there is at least one other poster here that is head and shoulder's ahead of me in the self righteousness stakes. I am Div 2 and he is Champions League level. No contest. I don't understand what you mean about "our replacement". Kindly elaborate. Did you read that article I referenced. It rather blows your assertions out of the water! It's people like you who are swallowing bucket loads of propaganda. In the Trump era it seems quite fashionable to believe lies as truth and condemn the truth as lies. Goebbels ghost must be dancing with joy at how his principles are still being employed.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 10.36pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I politely ask you to stop replying to me. I politely refer you to my previous answers. (I have copied this response to save effort the next time).
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 10.43pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And your evidence that this plan would work is...? How can anyone provide evidence of something yet to be fully worked out? However, look back to the various earlier inflows of immigrants and how time changed our perceptions and their behaviour. Common sense dictates that any plan has more chance of success than no plan at all, which is the position that "Robinson" has. His position is one of agitation, stirring the pot and getting people angry. I have never heard any kind of practical suggestions from him.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 10.47pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If 87% of burglaries were committed by red headed Welshmen then where would you advise the police to concentrate their enquiries? How the police conduct their investigations is quite another thing. In your analogy I would also argue that you should not condemn all red headed Welshmen just because some of them were burglars.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 14 Jul 19 10.50pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Don't be ridiculous! Nothing I have ever said supports the idea that I am an "apologist for grooming gangs"! That suggestion is quite an insulting thing to assert. Show me where any link between Muslim culture and grooming white children for sex is "proven"! Other than in your mind. I have no interest in persecuting any religious culture. I am only interested in what people do as individuals. Where they draw their inspiration is a matter for them alone and for them to answer for. I am excusing nobody. What I am not doing is passing the blame on to anyone, or anything else, other than an individual's behaviour. You say you don't excuse it just before you excuse it. There is a common denominator in all of these tens of thousands of cases. If you ignore it, which you are, you excuse it and enable continued abuse. These are Muslim rape gangs targeting white children, the guilty verdicts being proof enough for me. Simple as that.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jul 19 10.52pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No, there is at least one other poster here that is head and shoulder's ahead of me in the self righteousness stakes. I am Div 2 and he is Champions League level. No contest. I don't understand what you mean about "our replacement". Kindly elaborate.
If you choose to believe propaganda over reason then good luck with that. Your speech about the strength of British culture conquering all others has made me realise how deluded you really are.
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| Teddy Eagle 14 Jul 19 10.52pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How can anyone provide evidence of something yet to be fully worked out? However, look back to the various earlier inflows of immigrants and how time changed our perceptions and their behaviour. Common sense dictates that any plan has more chance of success than no plan at all, which is the position that "Robinson" has. His position is one of agitation, stirring the pot and getting people angry. I have never heard any kind of practical suggestions from him. And “Let’s educate people” is a practical suggestion? Why not apply the same policy to the right wing adherents you so disparage.
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| Teddy Eagle 14 Jul 19 11.02pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How the police conduct their investigations is quite another thing. In your analogy I would also argue that you should not condemn all red headed Welshmen just because some of them were burglars. I didn’t condemn anyone. Just saying that if the evidence is that a huge percentage of a particular crime is being committed by a section of population that’s where suspicion will fall.
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