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 Badger11  Beckenham 07 Oct 19 7.28pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Apparently this 'deal' could get majority support in the Commons. Will be interesting to see them voting for civil war in Northern Ireland. I don't believe that to be true and even if it was you don't run a democratic country with a gun held to your head. Just because a relatively small number of people may not like us leaving the EU the threat of violence should not stop us. No sensible person wants to see a return to violence and I would be happy if in the future there was a united Ireland as long as that was achieved by democratic means.
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 07 Oct 19 8.24pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Best to leave Trump in his own thread but I suspect he wants to be impeached, so he can carry the "witch-hunt" defence into the re-election campaign. Cummings is using Trump like tactics. This is all about the GE in a month or two's time. Exactly how the next few weeks play out is as unclear to me as anybody else but it's obvious that the EU won't accept what's on the table as it fails to meet some of their non negotiable positions, which they have been crystal clear about. Johnson asking for "compromises" from them is just window dressing for his campaign strategy. You could write the banners on the posters now. Yep
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johnno42000  07 Oct 19 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Utterly shameless cash in. The excitement of the moment followed by the massive disappointment of losing the Ashes series, could well be like Brexit.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Oct 19 9.10pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Wasnt project fear a leave response to any suggested negative possible outcome of Brexit? And how do you know it's hogwash? No body really knows what will happen. A self defeating argument if ever I heard one. People chose to vote both ways without knowing what a post Brexit Britain would look like. However, some of us do have a pretty good idea what a future EU will look like.
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| Spiderman Horsham 07 Oct 19 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Mate on this thread alone you must be at about 20 “are you saying leavers are dumb” - it’s less of a chip, more of a whole potato at this point. It’s something which long pre-dates ‘Wissie’ getting involved on here. Maybe that's because Pussay Patrol, Mapletree, Steeleye and Wissie have insinuated this on several occasions, which as you have obviously studied this thread intensely you will know. Again I do not have a sack of spuds on my shoulder but object to being spoken down to just because I happen to have different political views to those that know it all
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 07 Oct 19 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Maybe that's because Pussay Patrol, Mapletree, Steeleye and Wissie have insinuated this on several occasions, which as you have obviously studied this thread intensely you will know. Again I do not have a sack of spuds on my shoulder but object to being spoken down to just because I happen to have different political views to those that know it all Fair enough But both sides do it on here. Sometimes it’s needed when something especially idiotic is disseminated as though it’s gospel. Also this is an anonymously contributed public forum. I’d suggest being precious is not the best approach. It also suggests a slight hint of insecurity. Again, not a great trait to expose around here. Stupidity and intelligence are not great bedfellows. This forum certainly proves that. ‘Remember, when you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It is only painful for others. The same applies when you are stupid.‘
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| Badger11 Beckenham 08 Oct 19 7.38am |
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Originally posted by dollardays
@ComRes / @Telegraph Voting Intention: Great opportunity for the Lib Dems to cash in on the Labour party's ambivalence to Brexit, if they wait too long the moment will go. I still predict that once Brexit is over it will be business as usual for the main parties. Strike now Jo while the iron's hot.
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| Midlands Eagle 08 Oct 19 7.41am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Remember, when you are dead, you do not know you are dead. How do you know/
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| Midlands Eagle 08 Oct 19 7.46am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I tried to leave it alone too some months ago, then got sucked back in because of the attitudes on display here which very few were counteracting. We certainly need to put this behind us but what we mustn't do is allow our tiredness and despair to permit us to stop fighting for what we believe is right Who are you trying to kid. You are just the sort of boring argumentative bloke that everyone tries to avoid at parties
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| Badger11 Beckenham 08 Oct 19 9.12am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
BBC Brussels correspondent Adam Fleming said EU negotiators were "so nonplussed by the proposal they asked if it was a mistake". Also we should all desist from saying 'once brexit is over' as 1st November if we exit it is only the start of brexit. When things actually happen. Forecasts of doubling our debt next year whatever the option taken, from the IFS, that would make the deficit reduction of the last few years redundant. Borrow and spend our way through brexit that is what is in store for us. 'debt levels not seen since the 1960's' Agreed another mistake by Mrs May she should have insisted that the negotiations were concurrent even if we agree a deal with the EU it's just for the leaving part we still need a future trading agreement.
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| W12 08 Oct 19 11.09am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Granite Brexit here we come! Finally. No more bulls*** or bollox. Reports that the talks are finally done and dusted and no common ground to be found. Good. The UK needs to just get out ASAP. Whether that is on October 31st or a GE it does not matter but we are leaving now or else our future is as nothing more than a vassal state. Time for the UK to s*** or get off the pot. I fear there is very little, if nothing, that the remain establishment would not consider in order to stop Brexit. They now have demonstrated complete control over the law of the land so there really is no limit to their power other than what they think people are willing to swallow without taking to the streets en mass. It's as if our constitution never happened.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 19 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Who are you trying to kid. You are just the sort of boring argumentative bloke that everyone tries to avoid at parties I suggest that you come and visit my local with me and then you will see just how wrong you are. I know perfectly well where, with whom and when to share my opinions and always wait for someone to give their's before responding. Very few evenings there do I ever touch on politics, except with a mate of mine who holds similar views and needs to offload his frustrations over the current situation. It's the same at my bowls club where no-one at all knows my political views. Perhaps you don't notice but almost every comment I make is in response to some claim or other. It's only because this seemed like a club for the hard right that I joined in to start with because I believe such views need to be countered if there is an opportunity to do so. As this isn't a private group that opportunity exists. So I took it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 19 12.27pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
BBC Brussels correspondent Adam Fleming said EU negotiators were "so nonplussed by the proposal they asked if it was a mistake". Also we should all desist from saying 'once brexit is over' as 1st November if we exit it is only the start of brexit. When things actually happen. Forecasts of doubling our debt next year whatever the option taken, from the IFS, that would make the deficit reduction of the last few years redundant. Borrow and spend our way through brexit that is what is in store for us. 'debt levels not seen since the 1960's' I read that this morning too. I also saw the programme last night on the impact on our fish exports if a "no-deal" happens. Not theoretical concepts. Straight from the people involved. The idealistic garbage vendors of a "no deal" ought to be made to watch that. Parliament needs to get it's act together. This is no time for political games.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 08 Oct 19 12.29pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Granite Brexit here we come! Finally. No more bulls*** or bollox. Reports that the talks are finally done and dusted and no common ground to be found. Good. The UK needs to just get out ASAP. Whether that is on October 31st or a GE it does not matter but we are leaving now or else our future is as nothing more than a vassal state. Time for the UK to s*** or get off the pot. I for one, am looking forward to it (if it happens). Absolute borefest. I'm also looking forward to a lot of people on both sides who caused this mess directly suffering as a result of it. In some ways it will be sweeter to observe for those on the remain side once they've go over whatever 'devastation' they might initially feel. I'm not sure they should dwell on it for too long. My hunch is that the remainer crowd are much more financially secure and less vulnerable to the short-term pain. In a way it's actually quite delicious. No-one will ever want to vote for anything like this ever again. At least not in our lifetimes. Then the system can go back to normal. It will also be interesting see how long the stonewall, dogmatic attitude lasts for, and when people start to adapt their positions based on the observable reality that, for some, will be crushing.
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| Matov 08 Oct 19 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Perhaps you don't notice but almost every comment I make is in response to some claim or other. It's only because this seemed like a club for the hard right that I joined in to start with because I believe such views need to be countered if there is an opportunity to do so. As this isn't a private group that opportunity exists. So I took it. And more strength to you for that. That is how it should be.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 19 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by W12
I fear there is very little, if nothing, that the remain establishment would not consider in order to stop Brexit. They now have demonstrated complete control over the law of the land so there really is no limit to their power other than what they think people are willing to swallow without taking to the streets en mass. It's as if our constitution never happened. There isn't a "remain establishment"! There is Parliament. There is common sense. There is the law. There are people who have accepted we have triggered Article 50 but are not prepared for us to leave without first putting sensible transition arrangements in place. Some voted to remain. Others voted to leave. A few will come from what we traditionally call the "establishment". Most are just the rest of us. On the other side are a group of people determined to get their own way at whatever the cost to the country because they believe they are right, even if Parliament disagrees. There is a principle at stake here which is much bigger than Brexit itself and Parliament MUST exert itself to prove that, or our democracy could die.
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