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HeathMan Purley 11 Jun 19 12.21am |
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Not for sale should be the position - we know AWB contributed to our points total in the 2018/2019 Season - assume that he contributes as one of three (with Sakho and Zaha) to a 20% improvement in 2019/2020 and we 0could be in Europe in 2020/2021.
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green333 Tasmania 11 Jun 19 1.07am |
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His attacking play is well and truly developing. He is very clever at finding space always, happy to work in small areas, can dribble....the last bit would make him a 'complete' modern day full back. I am 'highly' awaiting his first goal....literally
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matthau South Croydon 11 Jun 19 2.04am |
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Originally posted by green333
His attacking play is well and truly developing. He is very clever at finding space always, happy to work in small areas, can dribble....the last bit would make him a 'complete' modern day full back. I am 'highly' awaiting his first goal....literally
Got a sad feeling his first goal will be for Utd though mate
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samprior Hamburg 11 Jun 19 2.24am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He is not good enough. No United rejects thanks. I'd reject all but the most insane offers for AWB. He is our future.
Yes I feel exactly the same. But 'if' that insane offer does come in then this would be my first step in covering the position.
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thai-eagle chiang mai 11 Jun 19 3.20am |
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If United offer close to 60 mill (and sell-on clause) we should take it. Hopefully it will push Roy H to include more academy players in first team - they are the way forward for our club. Not (injury-prone) journeymen like Welbeck & Sturridge. PS! Imagine United coming here next season with Zaha on left wing, AWB as their right back! After all, no player is bigger than the club and this sale shows The Eagles certainly belongs to the big league. I mean, 60 mill. for a ex-academy player with one and half season in him...amazing and ought to be a huge motivation for our young lads coming up.
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Maine Eagle USA 11 Jun 19 5.15am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No. It sends out a signal to other players that we are still not a serious club. Money is secondary.
Money is secondary is a naive statement in 2019 regarding the premier league.
Remember when we almost went out of business? Money was as primary then as it is now.
Players get sold all over the world, all the time, by “serious” clubs. We need to face reality regarding needing to sell one of AWB or Zaha.
If we can get 50 mil only a fool would say no.
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Mwncisee Middlesbrough 11 Jun 19 6.32am |
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Being reported across a few newspapers that United are coming in with a second bid of 50 mill,
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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 11 Jun 19 6.38am |
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Originally posted by green333
His attacking play is well and truly developing. He is very clever at finding space always, happy to work in small areas, can dribble....the last bit would make him a 'complete' modern day full back. I am 'highly' awaiting his first goal....literally
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.TUX. 11 Jun 19 6.47am |
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£50mil is strong money, probably too good to turn down, but i'm not sure that this would be that good a move for AWB. Utd are an obvious step-up but equally they still have many problems. This is a big decision for the lad.
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Mwncisee Middlesbrough 11 Jun 19 7.04am |
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United offered 40 mill. We asked for 60 mill and they have come back with a second offer of 50mill. second bid shows there is intent from united to get their man and its not a derisory increase in the bid. They seem serious and I expect AWB to go now for something like 52 mill plus add ons which is good sensible business for us.
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JohnB 11 Jun 19 8.03am |
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My prediction is AWB will be sold for £55m + £5-10m in add ons.
Then the entire fan base will expect us to bring in 4 players for £50m and realistically we will bring in 1 or 2 signings for a combined £20m and a couple of free/loan signings and there will be a melt down that the club hasn't spent all the money.
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MonsterMunch Cambridge 11 Jun 19 9.27am |
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Originally posted by JohnB
My prediction is AWB will be sold for £55m + £5-10m in add ons.
Then the entire fan base will expect us to bring in 4 players for £50m and realistically we will bring in 1 or 2 signings for a combined £20m and a couple of free/loan signings and there will be a melt down that the club hasn't spent all the money.
I think you are right, If we got say £50m for AWB I reckon max £25m to be reinvested into the squad. That doesn’t get much, I mean it doesn’t even get you a decent right back theses days
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rikz Croydon 11 Jun 19 10.16am |
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Doesn't matter if we get 10 billion for one player, the club still has to work to the same wage budget, was we not at like 95% of our maximum last season with something like a 7 million increase every season. Will still be a great return on an academy player but need to get benteke off the books.
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The Dolphin 11 Jun 19 10.36am |
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It will be £50m plus I suspect but if SP is clever enough he can do a deal on Wilf's settlement at the same time. Man Utd get their player, we write off a sell on debt clause on Wilf and we know where we are. Also - if we sell AWB (which I don't want to happen by the way) then it strengthens our hand against idiots like Levy coming in with derisory offers for Wilf. We didn't really need the money anyway but if AWB sells for £50m odd then we definitely don't need it!
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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 19 11.16am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Money is secondary is a naive statement in 2019 regarding the premier league.
Remember when we almost went out of business? Money was as primary then as it is now.
Players get sold all over the world, all the time, by “serious” clubs. We need to face reality regarding needing to sell one of AWB or Zaha.
If we can get 50 mil only a fool would say no.
You are clueless.
The quickest route to bankruptcy is to be relegated and the best way to achieve that is to sell your best players.
The whole purpose of a serious football club is to improve the team. We can enlarge the squad with money but the quality of players you can buy is almost always determined by the status of the club. No ambition on the field means no chance of signing anybody of real quality.
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HerneBayPalace Herne Bay 11 Jun 19 11.19am |
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It'd be a huge shame to see him leave, but it isn't everyday that Man Utd come knocking, regardless of what state they're in.
If we can get £50M with the majority up front, then we have to think about accepting it.
As much as he has been fantastic, losing a RB isn't as bad as losing a forward player (Zaha) IMO.
As a few others have said on here, if we can invest, say £25M in the squad, that'd be a good step to strengthen other areas.
We have done well to only really sell Bolasie since our time back in the Prem, so he'd go with my best wishes.
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eaglesdare 11 Jun 19 11.23am |
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Would have liked just one more season with him and then he can move on.
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Phil H 11 Jun 19 11.33am |
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I think we should hang on to our best players, especially home-grown, and push for Europe. Why should we give in to the Man Utd's when they wave their cash? Show some intent. Southampton and Swansea are "selling clubs" and where has it got them?
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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 19 11.44am |
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Originally posted by HerneBayPalace
It'd be a huge shame to see him leave, but it isn't everyday that Man Utd come knocking, regardless of what state they're in.
If we can get £50M with the majority up front, then we have to think about accepting it.
As much as he has been fantastic, losing a RB isn't as bad as losing a forward player (Zaha) IMO.
As a few others have said on here, if we can invest, say £25M in the squad, that'd be a good step to strengthen other areas.
We have done well to only really sell Bolasie since our time back in the Prem, so he'd go with my best wishes.
And do what with it?
It is no coincidence that our two best players came from the academy. We will not be able to sign players that good because no one that good will come to Palace. It's not rocket science.
It was a miracle that we signed Sakho but he spends half the season injured.
Benteke is the player we should be offloading. He is a great example of the kind of 'quality' player that you end up with when you flash your money about as a small club.
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rollercoaster Cornwall 11 Jun 19 11.46am |
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The salary issue is a serious problem that I hadn't really considered. AWB will be on a low salary, doesn't matter what we sell him for, we wont be able to buy even one equivalent replacement because any recruit would want higher wages and I understand we are at maximum wages under FFP rules. So the talk of investing 50 million in two or three quality players just cannot happen unless we sell more of the squad.
The decision then becomes:
do we make 50 million this year and hope we can hang on another year with a weakened squad and invest next year when one or two of our high earners are off the books?
Or, do we hope AWB has another good year and retains his value so we can sell him at the end of the season and have the wage capacity to buy a decent replacement?
I know, we could sell the likes of Benteke. But would he go and who in their right mind would buy him?
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