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Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Nov 19 12.21am

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Nov 19 6.01am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Some potentially big news being broken tonight by Mark Urban, the BBC's Diplomatic Editor about the Russian interference in the 2016 referendum. Apparently the government have had the IC's report on this for many months but have declined to publish it. It is suggested that it says that the interference was so severe that they are recommending that the result be null and voided and the referendum rerun.

The Parliamentary intelligence committee have been examining this report and have submitted their own report to the PM ready for publication, which must be done by next Tuesday before Parliament is dissolved. No 10 are making excuses and saying this cannot be done. I wonder why?

I therefore expect the report to be leaked in some way. Obviously the very fact that Mark Urban has this story indicates that he has been given information.

This could be dynamite You can read Urban's Twitter here:-

So far as I know this in't yet in the MSM. I bet it won't ever be in the Mail!

I dont use Twitter.
And now want to leave.
Due to not wanting to stiff all the voters who wanted to leave in the first place.
Solidarity is something you know.
Yes I know referendum isnt law blah blah.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Nov 19 7.09am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Some potentially big news being broken tonight by Mark Urban, the BBC's Diplomatic Editor about the Russian interference in the 2016 referendum. Apparently the government have had the IC's report on this for many months but have declined to publish it. It is suggested that it says that the interference was so severe that they are recommending that the result be null and voided and the referendum rerun.

This could be dynamite You can read Urban's Twitter here:-

So this dynamite is on the BBC reporter's Twitter feed but not on his employer's website. What are we to make of that I wonder?

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Nov 19 7.35am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

So this dynamite is on the BBC reporter's Twitter feed but not on his employer's website. What are we to make of that I wonder?

I've now found a short article hidden away on the BBC's website and even the anti Tory BBC seem to think that there is nothing to it other than yet another effort by Dominic Grieve to stir up trouble for Boris Johnson

 

becky Flag over the moon 01 Nov 19 7.40am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I've now found a short article hidden away on the BBC's website and even the anti Tory BBC seem to think that there is nothing to it other than yet another effort by Dominic Grieve to stir up trouble for Boris Johnson

There is no straw too small to grasp at.

 


A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Nov 19 8.20am

Interesting article which makes sense to me. Whilst we have a vociferous minority at both ends of politics I have always felt that the "man on the Clapham Omnibus" is essentially fair in this country.

Remainers get a huge amount of air time but they are the political class and the establishment. I think if you drill down the average person may not be happy about Brexit but respect the result of the referendum.

There is still hope for this country if most people accept the democratic will and that they have lost. It may not seem that way when hundreds of thousands of people march in London but we never count the millions of Remain voters who don't protest.

Lets hope the GE is a decisive victory for one or other of the parties so we can put this to bed.


Edited by Badger11 (01 Nov 2019 8.21am)

 


One more point

W12 01 Nov 19 8.29am

Just wanted to say, screw the Tories and everyone else in parliament other than a handful of people that still care about this country.

The fact that we have a whole Tory party that's willing to get behind this "deal" and an opposition that is openly Marxist and an endless stream of fish wives screeching and yet offering absolutely nothing, says all you need to know about the sorry state of our politics.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Nov 19 8.47am

Originally posted by W12

Just wanted to say, screw the Tories and everyone else in parliament other than a handful of people that still care about this country.

The fact that we have a whole Tory party that's willing to get behind this "deal" and an opposition that is openly Marxist and an endless stream of fish wives screeching and yet offering absolutely nothing, says all you need to know about the sorry state of our politics.

Agreed.

For me it's about who I hate the least and who I think will do the least damage to the economy. Brexit is a risk but then having a Marxist government with their politics of envy is a bigger one.

There are no black hats and white hats they're all just grey.

 


One more point

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 19 9.27am

Hopefully the HOL will grow up and stop calling everything they don't happen to agree with, as 'Marxist'.

Hammond, as Chancellor, even called the self-employed 'Marxist'.

if you get multiple tory canvassers on your doorstep uttering 'Corbyn is a Marxist' it is because they have nothing else to say after 10 years of cutting public services.

The conservative party is losing its sane members after a right wing coup and is really the replacement for UKIP.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Nov 19 9.33am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Hopefully the HOL will grow up and stop calling everything they don't happen to agree with, as 'Marxist'.

Hammond, as Chancellor, even called the self-employed 'Marxist'.

if you get multiple tory canvassers on your doorstep uttering 'Corbyn is a Marxist' it is because they have nothing else to say after 10 years of cutting public services.

The conservative party is losing its sane members after a right wing coup and is really the replacement for UKIP.

Unfortunately that is the age in which we live. Everybody is either a Marxist or a Hard Right Winger. A Snowflake or a Racist. Offended or offending.
It doesn’t help that politicians themselves and a lot of the media play the same games.

 

DanH Flag SW2 01 Nov 19 9.39am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Unfortunately that is the age in which we live. Everybody is either a Marxist or a Hard Right Winger. A Snowflake or a Racist. Offended or offending.
It doesn’t help that politicians themselves and a lot of the media play the same games.

Yep. Nuance seems to have become a thing of the past.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 19 9.42am

Ah when we are free we will have a huge free trade deal with the USA.

Not so I am afraid brexit pop-pickers.

The US "can't make a trade deal with the UK" under Boris Johnson's Brexit deal.

Still it is only Trump saying that, the President of the USA.

We have Dr.Liam Fox (remember him?) now no longer head of the 'Dept' for leaving the EU, a humble MP thinking as they all do, that the UK will implode without them.

Congratulate yourself on never having been one of Dr.Foxes patients.

He thinks we shall just go on regardless, why bother with Trump when Papua New Guinea are waiting?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Nov 19 9.43am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

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Rather a slow breaking story.

The story is the recommendation by the IC to rerun the referendum and the way the government seem to be suppressing it.

The interference has been known about for a long time, even if it has been dismissed as unimportant in places such as this. If you re-read some of my earlier posts you will see that I had commented on the rumours that was what the IC had recommended.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

DANGERCLOSE Flag London 01 Nov 19 9.44am

 

W12 01 Nov 19 9.44am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Hopefully the HOL will grow up and stop calling everything they don't happen to agree with, as 'Marxist'.

Hammond, as Chancellor, even called the self-employed 'Marxist'.

if you get multiple tory canvassers on your doorstep uttering 'Corbyn is a Marxist' it is because they have nothing else to say after 10 years of cutting public services.

The conservative party is losing its sane members after a right wing coup and is really the replacement for UKIP.

If they describe themselves as Marxist then it's a fair and obvious assumption that they are. You could also look at the policies of the labour party as a pretty big clue.

You display the same cognitive dissonance of people that say Islamic terrorists don't murder people in the name of religion when that's exectly what they will tell you.

At the same time you clearly see UKIP as somehow racist and the Tories as in some way socially conservative despite the obvious evidence to the contrary. I'm sure you can dig up something from 1976 to prove me wrong.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Nov 19 9.45am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

So this dynamite is on the BBC reporter's Twitter feed but not on his employer's website. What are we to make of that I wonder?

That they need verification before publication as every proper news organisation do.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Nov 19 9.46am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The story is the recommendation by the IC to rerun the referendum and the way the government seem to be suppressing it.

The interference has been known about for a long time, even if it has been dismissed as unimportant in places such as this. If you re-read some of my earlier posts you will see that I had commented on the rumours that was what the IC had recommended.

And yet Parliament who you hold in such high esteem hasn't seen fit to demand a re-run of the election?

I maybe wrong but I can't remember any party leader or heavyweight politician calling for a re-run due to fraud?

 


One more point

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 19 10.09am

Happy No-Brexit Day.

Looking forward to many more.....

Special thanks to B.Johnson for all his remain efforts.



 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Nov 19 10.15am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Happy No-Brexit Day.

Looking forward to many more.....

Special thanks to B.Johnson for all his remain efforts.



It'll be over by Christmas - well one Christmas or another.

 


Red and Blue Army!

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 01 Nov 19 10.27am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Hopefully the HOL will grow up and stop calling everything they don't happen to agree with, as 'Marxist'.

Hammond, as Chancellor, even called the self-employed 'Marxist'.

if you get multiple tory canvassers on your doorstep uttering 'Corbyn is a Marxist' it is because they have nothing else to say after 10 years of cutting public services.

The conservative party is losing its sane members after a right wing coup and is really the replacement for UKIP.

MORE rubbish from you !!!!

 


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