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"Our entire department is thankful that the officers did not sustain any life threatening injuries." No sh!t. They were exceptionally eager to ensure that was the case.
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
I found this quite interesting, seeing as the Democrats seemed to be always supporting the Black cause…At least 21 Black staffers have left the White House since late last year or are planning to leave soon. Some of those who remain say it’s no wonder why: They describe a work environment with little support from their superiors and fewer chances for promotion. Biden was heard shouting 'you ain't black' as they left the building..
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Biden was heard shouting 'you ain't black' as they left the building.. He was having one of his Mr T days again.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
He was having one of his Mr T days again. They eventually escaped by getting on a plane..
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Originally posted by BlueJay
They eventually escaped by getting on a plane.. ...despite his initial reluctance.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
...despite his initial reluctance. Of course!
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4 dead in a hospital shooting. Geez wtf is going on in that country.
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Originally posted by cryrst
4 dead in a hospital shooting. Geez wtf is going on in that country. That’s not even a bad weekend in Chicago
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Originally posted by W12
That’s not even a bad weekend in Chicago That would be an excellent weekend in Chicago tbh.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is a little exchange I have had on FB. Someone posted this meme, which is about a kid replying to his teacher who told him that guns kill people, that his pencil failed his maths exam:- I commented:-"The difference is that pencils are very rarely lethal weapons and never capable of killing multiple people in a few seconds. It isn't just who is holding an object which matters. It's what the object is capable of doing that matters just as much." And got back:-"You can leave a gun on top of a table harmless for years until a crazy dude touches it..... Got it?" To which I replied:-"If the gun wasn't on the top of the table, the crazy dude couldn't touch it in the first place. Guns should only be, and always be, in the possession of those authorised, trained and safe to use them in the circumstances they were designed for. Military weapons in the possession of the military in military circumstances. Sporting weapons in sporting circumstances, and locked away when not. Personal protection weapons kept by the person when protection is demanded and locked away when not. Never left on table tops.............Got it? Just shows how some people think over there. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (02 Jun 2022 11.27am) Did you mention that the statistics for the likelihood of a mass or otherwise shooting are significantly reduced if guns aren’t readily available to anyone? There’s a brilliant line in the film ‘Watchmen’ which I feel is applicable in this circumstance: ‘Superhero’ 1: We’re here to protect people! (After attacking protesters) ‘Superhero’ 2: Protect them from what??? ‘Superhero’ 1: Are you kidding me?? From themselves. Correct me if I’m wrong please but isn’t it an ‘amendment’ right codified centuries ago to protect from the threat of invasion etc? Nice to see they’ve moved on. Best country in the world my a**e. Sounds cruel but that’s why I have little time for most of them, not all of course. It’s the greatest cult the world has ever seen.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Did you mention that the statistics for the likelihood of a mass or otherwise shooting are significantly reduced if guns aren’t readily available to anyone? There’s a brilliant line in the film ‘Watchmen’ which I feel is applicable in this circumstance: ‘Superhero’ 1: We’re here to protect people! (After attacking protesters) ‘Superhero’ 2: Protect them from what??? ‘Superhero’ 1: Are you kidding me?? From themselves. Correct me if I’m wrong please but isn’t it an ‘amendment’ right codified centuries ago to protect from the threat of invasion etc? Nice to see they’ve moved on. Best country in the world my a**e. Sounds cruel but that’s why I have little time for most of them, not all of course. It’s the greatest cult the world has ever seen. They dismiss statistics from other places as irrelevant to their circumstances. I have spent a considerable amount of time in the USA over the years, and also met many ex pat Americans during my time in the Philippines. Most are very pleasant people on a one to one basis, friendly and helpful. Their attitude to guns though runs deep and is founded on the concept that the safety of themselves, and their families, is vested in them personally and not in society generally. Together with an immovable belief that the Constitution is set in stone and cannot be changed to suit changed circumstances means their mindset is at odds with ours. Then you have the NRA being such a powerful lobby in a political environment where this matters. Whilst the case for checks and the removal of military weapons might seem a no-brainer to us, it There is no obvious answer, given the divided state of their politics. The only hope is the rise of a truly charismatic leader who can speak truth to the hearts of everyone. Reform of the politics which reduces the power of lobby groups is a prerequisite, followed by much stricter moderation of all social media platforms to ensure that whilst the free expression of opinions continues, dangerous content is either flagged or removed. Will it happen? No chance.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They dismiss statistics from other places as irrelevant to their circumstances. I have spent a considerable amount of time in the USA over the years, and also met many ex pat Americans during my time in the Philippines. Most are very pleasant people on a one to one basis, friendly and helpful. Their attitude to guns though runs deep and is founded on the concept that the safety of themselves, and their families, is vested in them personally and not in society generally. Together with an immovable belief that the Constitution is set in stone and cannot be changed to suit changed circumstances means their mindset is at odds with ours. Then you have the NRA being such a powerful lobby in a political environment where this matters. Whilst the case for checks and the removal of military weapons might seem a no-brainer to us, it There is no obvious answer, given the divided state of their politics. The only hope is the rise of a truly charismatic leader who can speak truth to the hearts of everyone. Reform of the politics which reduces the power of lobby groups is a prerequisite, followed by much stricter moderation of all social media platforms to ensure that whilst the free expression of opinions continues, dangerous content is either flagged or removed. Will it happen? No chance. The immutability of the constitution is moot seeing there have been 27 amendments.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The immutability of the constitution is moot seeing there have been 27 amendments. You would hope so, people have convinced themselves that 'any' change going forward (say future restrictions on buying semi automatic weapons) will result in people 'taking away their guns', so I don't see it. It's a ridiculous slippery slops fear anyway, as who presicely is going to take away guns from millions of Americans? I can't say I'd be applying for that job.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The entire discussion is a complete non starter. America is incredibly polarised and the gun issue is part of it. Even common sense commentary, which isn't in fact very common, isn't going to get anywhere. When America is at peace with itself....or more likely the two Americas are then perhaps some agreements can be found. Oh yes absolutely agree. I have been a few places, Arizona, New Hampshire, New York, Miami as a few but for me it is a very unsettling place. I’ll enjoy the movies, the extremes displayed through documentary, enjoy the technology etc etc. But as far as common sense and any grip on reality goes, I could not possibly envision living there. Still all very much a circus to me, I’ll therefore continue quite content as an amused or bemused spectator than participant thank you very much.
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Oh yes absolutely agree. I have been a few places, Arizona, New Hampshire, New York, Miami as a few but for me it is a very unsettling place. I’ll enjoy the movies, the extremes displayed through documentary, enjoy the technology etc etc. But as far as common sense and any grip on reality goes, I could not possibly envision living there. Still all very much a circus to me, I’ll therefore continue quite content as an amused or bemused spectator than participant thank you very much. You are watching the decline of an empire. You can trace it back to the sixties.
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Oh yes absolutely agree. I have been a few places, Arizona, New Hampshire, New York, Miami as a few but for me it is a very unsettling place. I’ll enjoy the movies, the extremes displayed through documentary, enjoy the technology etc etc. But as far as common sense and any grip on reality goes, I could not possibly envision living there. Still all very much a circus to me, I’ll therefore continue quite content as an amused or bemused spectator than participant thank you very much. Over the years I've been to rural and city areas stateside, but as the partisanship and rage amps it up, I feel less and less inclined to ever return. America is not the world. Much like with you, there are certain aspects of Lady Liberty that I can admire from afar, but I now appreciate the dangers of getting my mitts on her tits.
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