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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is a gross distortion on several levels. That there was no co-ordinated plan on what to do once they arrived at the Capitol Building is unsurprising, as is that the likes of Roger Stone and Alex Jones were directly behind it. I don't think ANY commentator has suggested otherwise.

What is undoubtedly true was that there was a ground swelling of Trump supporters determined to make their way to Washington that day, encouraged and emboldened by Trump to believe the election had been "stolen" and determined to "do something about it". I read it myself in a variety of places, so when it happened, it was no surprise at all. Alex Jones may well not have co-ordinated the action, but he certainly encouraged it.

The actual storming of the Capitol seemed spontaneous, but the feelings that created it were not. They were stoked by lies and misinformation coming directly from Trump and his motley crew of hangers-on.

When inside, they hardly "walked through a public building"! They threatened to harm people and entered private spaces. People ran for their lives.

No-one was murdered. People lost their lives as a direct consequence of the actions of the mob and the responses of those paid to protect the lawmakers from the mob.

Yes, I would think that if countless individuals broke into my home with various weapons, zip ties, stun guns and were recorded stating that they intended to kill me, it might be an event that raises an eyebrow. The only reason politicians were not killed that day was because essentially they hid and escaped.

 

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We have just had people like Jones and Stone investigated. The FBI have come out and stated that there was no worthy evidence for a coorindated plan. Yet, we continue to see unreality promoted and a certain level of criticism is deserved for that.

It's certainly true that Trump and these others did encourage protest. Something the Democrats did themselves for 18 months while businessness in cities burned and people died. Unlike this continued support from the Democrats Trump didn't encourage the 'storming' (opened doors) of the building and made statements saying that once it happened.

That Trump and others encouraged protest is accepted.
What is being revealed here is that reporting and important figures went too far and were inaccurate in what they said. It's unfortunate that power resides to the level it does with these same people.

If there were people who actually made direct death threats then appropriate individual action would be justified.

However, actual evidence should be required.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Aug 2021 11.26pm)

 


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I wonder if the FBI are willing to investigate figures in the Democrat party and BLM/Antifa for coordination during 18 months of rioting.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I wonder if the FBI are willing to investigate figures in the Democrat party and BLM/Antifa for coordination during 18 months of rioting.

I am quite sure that if it was necessary they would have done. That no report on this has been made is evidence enough that it wasn't. Unless, of course, you believe the FBI has a political agenda. Which is another conspiracy theory circulating in the alternative media, where you appear to dredge up most of your ideas.

You carry on. With every post you make on this subject, you confirm your biases and prejudices in all their ugly repulsiveness.

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

You started on the black stuff early ASCP?

I want a shrubbery

 


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Red and Blue Army!

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I want a shrubbery

The Knights Who Say Ni are on the case.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am quite sure that if it was necessary they would have done. That no report on this has been made is evidence enough that it wasn't. Unless, of course, you believe the FBI has a political agenda. Which is another conspiracy theory circulating in the alternative media, where you appear to dredge up most of your ideas.

You carry on. With every post you make on this subject, you confirm your biases and prejudices in all their ugly repulsiveness.

Supreme irony??

 

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Trump gave a speech last night in Alabama.
Here's an image of the size of the crowd, that you won't see in the mainstream US Democratic media.

There are two Americas.

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'Do you think George Patton was woke? You know what it means when you’re woke. When you’re woke, you’re a loser. Everything woke turns to s***.' (President Trump)

Trump last night....personally I think he did some woke stuff himself in the second half of his presidency but compared to the Democrats he at least was an alternative.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Trump gave a speech last night in Alabama.
Here's an image of the size of the crowd, that you won't see in the mainstream US Democratic media.

There are two Americas.

Yep, lots of Americans who haven't traveled outside of their own country who's view of the world is only through American media, the exact fodder that Trump wants to hypnotise. There are nearly 350 million people in the US, that crowd isn't even a pinhead in comparison.

There certainly are two Americas, one that's aware of world politics and events and the other that is clueless and easily manipulated by cowards like Trump.


Edited by Orange1290 (22 Aug 2021 11.16am)

 


Pro China, EU & Palestine

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Originally posted by Orange1290

Yep, lots of Americans who haven't traveled outside of their own country who's view of the world is only through American media, the exact fodder that Trump wants to hypnotise. There are nearly 350 million people in the US, that crowd isn't even a pinhead in comparison.

There certainly are two Americas, one that's aware of world politics and events and the other that is clueless and easily manipulated by cowards like Trump.

Edited by Orange1290 (22 Aug 2021 11.16am)

As Opposed to President Biden a statesman with his finger on the pulse of world events.

The only finger on the pulse is that of his nurse.

 


One more point

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Originally posted by Orange1290

Yep, lots of Americans who haven't traveled outside of their own country who's view of the world is only through American media, the exact fodder that Trump wants to hypnotise. There are nearly 350 million people in the US, that crowd isn't even a pinhead in comparison.

There certainly are two Americas, one that's aware of world politics and events and the other that is clueless and easily manipulated by cowards like Trump.


Edited by Orange1290 (22 Aug 2021 11.16am)

Unironically says the guy with 'Pro China' in his post statement......a country with far more people who have travelled even less and know even less than that.

But as your posts have shown us spicy, you can't be taken that seriously.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Aug 2021 11.43am)

 


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