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 leifandersonshair  Newport 09 Jun 16 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins? If that were the case, then the Remain Campaign should say so- guaranteed at least 90% voting remain at that point
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-TUX-  Alphabettispaghetti 09 Jun 16 7.32pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it. It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise. This is my take on things, but rather than being politically/economically/socially motivated, i believe it's purely because many people are just plain scared of 'change' (in my experience) and this vote has been blown out of all proportion. Just as with any General Election, the vast majority of us will notice no change to our lives whatsoever regardless of the result, life goes on. Oh well, sh-t happens.
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Tom-the-eagle  Croydon 09 Jun 16 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins?
I could bizarrely see UKIP becoming much stronger if they lose, particularly if the result is fairly close. Look at Scotland, they voted to remain which you would of thought marked the end for the SNP however what it actually did was galvanise their support and brought together voters from other parties who also wished to break away. This showed via their huge successes in the general elections. In a bizarre way, a (close) vote to remain may actually propel UKIPs popularity. Separate point - I could also see Johnson/Gove and several other prominent out campaigners joining UKIP after the elections.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 16 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I blame the Vikings and Normans. English people will always exist but their make-up has been malleable for a very long time now. No doubt in 300 years some English people will be bemoaning change in their society too. Your post should be sent to every remain voter so that they can see the attitudes of the core 'remain' camp. So sorry for bemoaning the rate of change and the lack of power to adapt it within England. You know...England....where the English are meant to live. Never mind, whatever happens to England will eventually happen to crappy Scotland as well.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Jun 16 8.52pm |
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I'm not saying this to try and persuade as some people will try and have you believe, I'm still undecided - in fact the closer it gets the harder I'm finding it, but would we feasibly see a sharp influx of immigrants before borders are restricted if we vote to leave. Many effects of leaving will take a while to take effect.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jun 16 9.41pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I blame the Vikings and Normans. English people will always exist but their make-up has been malleable for a very long time now. No doubt in 300 years some English people will be bemoaning change in their society too. That is one of the biggest lies or modern times. The British make up has hardly changed in hundreds if not thousands of years. Please stop perpetuating these stupid myths. The recent arrivals represent an unprecedented change to the population. The Romans, the Normans made hardly a ripple in our gene pool and even the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Danes probably only amounted to a few thousands.
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| Stuk Top half 09 Jun 16 9.44pm |
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Originally posted by -TUX-
This is my take on things, but rather than being politically/economically/socially motivated, i believe it's purely because many people are just plain scared of 'change' (in my experience) and this vote has been blown out of all proportion. Just as with any General Election, the vast majority of us will notice no change to our lives whatsoever regardless of the result, life goes on. All of this is the nail on the head. In/Out life will go on.
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| blackpalacefan 09 Jun 16 9.58pm |
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You're both on the money i feel sorry for people thinking the country is going to undergo great change as result of the vote. Even if we vote out in a blink of an eye government will agree to free movement within trade deals. They will appease just enough to keep the staus quo. The little people have no real power. realising that is a hard but necessary truth in life and lets you lend your time to all that you control instead of all that you dont. Some need a reality check not a vote.
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| Rubin 09 Jun 16 10.16pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
You're both on the money i feel sorry for people thinking the country is going to undergo great change as result of the vote. Even if we vote out in a blink of an eye government will agree to free movement within trade deals. They will appease just enough to keep the staus quo. The little people have no real power. realising that is a hard but necessary truth in life and lets you lend your time to all that you control instead of all that you dont. Some need a reality check not a vote. It's more about preventing it get a lot worse in the future in my eyes, and putting out future in our own hands.
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| Stuk Top half 09 Jun 16 10.25pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
You're both on the money i feel sorry for people thinking the country is going to undergo great change as result of the vote. Even if we vote out in a blink of an eye government will agree to free movement within trade deals. They will appease just enough to keep the staus quo. The little people have no real power. realising that is a hard but necessary truth in life and lets you lend your time to all that you control instead of all that you dont. Some need a reality check not a vote. Very well stated. That's what I'd like to have written but apathy kicked in. The debate is just farcical, on both sides. And I'm someone who has wanted a vote on this, since I could vote.
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corkery  Cork City 10 Jun 16 12.07am |
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The new scare tactic is that the troubles in Northern Ireland will begin if the UK votes to leave.
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| Sportyteacher London 10 Jun 16 5.32am |
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Originally posted by npn
Oddly, she's done exactly what I've done in reverse - watched the lies and exaggerations and decided they can't trust anything they say (which is what I did with the Remainiacs, and jumped over to Leave) Were you taken in by the BREXIT battle bus with its lying figure of UK spending £360m on EU per week?
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