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 Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 10 Jun 16 1.12pm |
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Originally posted by corkery
They couldn't control the border with 10,000 soldiers. The Common Travel Agreement is around for much longer. I certainly agree that it should be. However if you use the logic of the Brexiters, control of our own borders, then it would be foolish to ignore the fact that depending who is in power, it could have potential consequences in Ireland.
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davenotamonkey  10 Jun 16 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Perhaps they should then say that 'we will have a points style system, but one that is different to the Australian one' rather than 'like the Australian one' just to make it crystal clear. I think this is just semantics. You can have a "system" or "policy" and set the entry criteria as you see fit. We already have an immigration policy: EU white people: come on through. Job or not It's not fit for purpose.
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| snytaxx London 10 Jun 16 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
I think this is just semantics. You can have a "system" or "policy" and set the entry criteria as you see fit. We already have an immigration policy: EU white people: come on through. Job or not It's not fit for purpose. This with bells on it! The shame I feel here when I ask people if they have ever planned to study or live in the UK and they tell me they'd like to but feel its a waste of time as getting a visa is too stressful. Some of them often tell me that Australia and Canada have much simpler systems of immigration.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Jun 16 2.04pm |
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Can someone explain why Northern Ireland not being in the EU is dangerous? What difference does it make to Ireland and Northern Ireland and the invisible border? Can we not check passports of flight and boat passengers from both Rep Of Ireland and Northern Ireland coming into England, Wales, Scotland? What are they expecting? Flights to Rep Of Ireland and then dinghy travel from there to England or Wales? Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Jun 2016 2.05pm)
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Jun 16 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Very well stated. That's what I'd like to have written but apathy kicked in. The debate is just farcical, on both sides. This. Two sets of self interested, insincere, lying and generally odious individuals or groups, misleading, extrapolating and manipulating to serve their own ends and for all they are worth. Soundbite politicking at its absolute worst. For me a simple 'in / out' choice is a flawed basis to vote on something so complex anyway. Edited by The Sash (10 Jun 2016 2.53pm)
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 10 Jun 16 3.01pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Can someone explain why Northern Ireland not being in the EU is dangerous? What difference does it make to Ireland and Northern Ireland and the invisible border? Can we not check passports of flight and boat passengers from both Rep Of Ireland and Northern Ireland coming into England, Wales, Scotland? What are they expecting? Flights to Rep Of Ireland and then dinghy travel from there to England or Wales? Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Jun 2016 2.05pm) Dangerous? Probably not but it has the potential to cause problems. Ireland and UK relationship is complex, just look at the whole dual citizenship for example.
Also a fair few people commute from one country to the other. It's ok people quoting that we have had agreements predating the EU but the world has moved on and again I will make the point: Brexiters are playing heavily on the right to control borders, surely that must include Ireland where there are already stories (I don't know if true) of people heading there to by pass calais
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| Canterbury Palace Whitstable 10 Jun 16 3.39pm |
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The entire thing is just irritating me now, I can't wait for it all to be over.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold... |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 16 4.11pm |
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Not trying to persuade anyone before accusations fly at me (Hoof and Himself please note), just posting news... No single market access for UK after Brexit, Wolfgang Schäuble says
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| elgrande bedford 10 Jun 16 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Not trying to persuade anyone before accusations fly at me (Hoof and Himself please note), just posting news... No single market access for UK after Brexit, Wolfgang Schäuble says In other news the French are on strike.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 16 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
In other news the French are on strike. I see the EU as a bit like FIFA.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 16 4.55pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
In other news the French are on strike. And they / you know it. Hmm where have I heard that before? Also, you are mixing metaphors. Do cards crumble or tumble? Bring the whole edifice crumbling down would be suitable. But you're probably right, possibly a bit of gamesmanship from our friend from the fatherland.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 16 4.58pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
In other news the French are on strike. Yep. hardly mentioned in our media though is it. Poor old Hollande isn't being very socialist denigrating workers rights is he. Interesting times for the left in France.
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