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Originally posted by dynamicdick
Always the players fault TP, never Roy. The buck stops with the manager, always has done and always will. Your right and it is.
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Originally posted by Master Coin
His record without Zaha is totally damning. People who say Roy keeps us in the league are wrong. Zaha keeps us in the league in spite of Hodgson. Spot on.
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
Your right and it is. For £4.5m why would you?
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
Roy resigned the England job immediately after one of if not the worst displays in our history and having failed to qualify for the knock out stages of the tournament. So even with this revamped team he failed as a manager big time or was it all the players fault? There were plenty of terrible performances before that. Like the only time we went out for a world cup in the first round. Without a win, and only picking up a draw against Costa Rica. Fortunately for Roy, the Euro 2016 exit eclipsed the 4 dreadful years before that.
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Just talking about this. Has good managerial experience and meets Parish’s Palace connection criteria. One to look out for So does Chris Coleman.
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
Since the beginning of 2014-15 when Zaha re-joined us from Man.U we've lost 89.4% of games without him ..are you suggesting the same for all the managers we've had since? lol, Spurs struggle without Kane although not as obvious as Zaha with us it is noticeable, I feel you've just jumped on this without thinking it out because having a really top class player amongst a group of just good players is always going to play out the same way it has with us, when Mr Hodgson took over the England job the squads average age was like we are now over 30 and he along with Ray Lewington and Gary Neville rebuilt the whole team to an age of 23/24 ..no one knows that or wants to mention it lol and what has our manager been doing recently with us ..oh he's brought in Ferguson, Eze, Mateta, Mitchel and Riedewald, but it's much more fun to find things to have a go at our manager about isn't it. Honestly wtf are you talking about. I’ve just quoted a statistic and said our form without Wilf is appalling and you go off ranting about all sorts. Have you been drinking?
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Originally posted by Willo
So does Chris Coleman. For some reason, when watching Coleman and Howe as pundits recently I got the feeling they'd both be quiet keen on the Palace job. Purely conjecture, but if Coleman ever was to get the job, I wonder if he'd bring Kit Symonds back with him.
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Originally posted by jeeagles
For some reason, when watching Coleman and Howe as pundits recently I got the feeling they'd both be quiet keen on the Palace job. Purely conjecture, but if Coleman ever was to get the job, I wonder if he'd bring Kit Symonds back with him. Not sure about Cookie. He drinks a lot of Guinness though and is a top bloke at parties so on that basis alone I’ll back him but not convinced about his ability to manage at top level.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Not sure about Cookie. He drinks a lot of Guinness though and is a top bloke at parties so on that basis alone I’ll back him but not convinced about his ability to manage at top level. In England he has managed Fulham,Coventry and Sunderland and at each of those clubs his teams lost more games than they won but of course there could have been extenuating circumstances. In our last 12 seasons, only in 1 of them have we won more games than we lost and that was when we were promoted from the Championship.
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Originally posted by Putitout
Hodgson , clearly said at the end of his first season in charge that if the club wanted to progress they would need to improve the playing staff. They haven’t and the progress is hard to see. It would seem he doesn’t get what he really needs or what he thinks the club needs. For 4.5m I think loyalty would be in my mind.
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Originally posted by Willo
In England he has managed Fulham,Coventry and Sunderland and at each of those clubs his teams lost more games than they won but of course there could have been extenuating circumstances. In our last 12 seasons, only in 1 of them have we won more games than we lost and that was when we were promoted from the Championship.
Sunderland and Coventry were pretty toxic. At Wales he managed a team with one star player and got the best out of them. Could be similar to here.
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Originally posted by AERO
Just thinking was all the effort and heartache worth it to get into the premiership to watch this uninspiring football .Would go as far to say its getting close to the Peter Taylor days .Manager and team need refreshing. The Travis song ‘Driftwood’ comes to mind thinking back on that time.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
The answer is nothing. You can't compare those jobs with the one at Palace out of interest why not? His job is to manage and get the best out of his players. The Liverpool and England job proved he couldn't do it with quality players. So why should we expect that if we invested more in the first team he would do any better with them?
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Originally posted by jeeagles
For some reason, when watching Coleman and Howe as pundits recently I got the feeling they'd both be quiet keen on the Palace job. Purely conjecture, but if Coleman ever was to get the job, I wonder if he'd bring Kit Symonds back with him. Didnt Coleman, come after Hodgson ,at Fulham? That didn’t end up so well after a few struggling seasons.
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Originally posted by Putitout
Coleman succeeded Tigana and when Coleman was removed from his duties Sanchez was appointed.
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Originally posted by MonsterMunch
What would we do without this thread Its funny because the Roy out camp were/are perceived to be loonies but to me some of the Roy in lot have gone full on cuckoo. Accepting absolutely no rationale or stats around Roys tenure. The comments that keep getting peddled out of its not Roy its the players is baffling. Roys done a job which is commended. No-body is denying Roy has kept Palace in the PL during his reign. Many fans want more, a new direction, a new playing culture after 8 years in the PL it all feels stale. . To me its very easy to see that palace does not feel a happy place at the moment because of all the different elements. Timing wise, I believe the summer is the perfect time to move on with a new broom. Any new Manager is not going to fix all the other issues we have at Palace, but what they will be able to affect are the players he will be working with day to day. Its likely there will be new additions next season giving the new manager the opportunity to instil his own ethos. Its a risk but so's everything and its not a reason to not change. Roy is coming across a little defeated to me of late, I think hes either had enough himself of knows this will be his last season. Roys a complete gentleman and I will be very grateful for his time with us but all good things come to an end. Palace is the longest he has ever stayed at a club I believe so weve been good to each other. It would appear that many of our supporters are clamouring for change,for a more attractive brand of football,but change on the managerial 'Throne' comes with risk and the 'Board' with commercial interests consider the 'Bigger picture'. When an experienced manager has provided PL security season on season, and of course many outside the club assert he guarantees survival, then why change? Leeds have only just returned to the PL having last played there in 2003-04, Nottm Forest's last season in the PL was 1998-99.One can spend a long time outside the top division with empty seats very much in evidence! Edited by Willo (12 Feb 2021 10.58am)
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