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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Mar 19 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Your kids may

Currently my kids and everyone I speak to below the age of 25 blooming hates you and others like you

So maybe they will change their view. Or maybe the EU is right and they will take us back in when they realize the cost/benefit balance and when they have the power back from the generation that 'knew better than them'.


'Hate'?

Blimey Maple.

Well, I don't hate you or your kids......You could dress up in EU flag clothes and sing 'Ode to Joy' all day.....Hate?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Mar 19 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Your kids may

Currently my kids and everyone I speak to below the age of 25 blooming hates you and others like you

So maybe they will change their view. Or maybe the EU is right and they will take us back in when they realize the cost/benefit balance and when they have the power back from the generation that 'knew better than them'.

Because people under 25 know best?

I thought you Left types were anti 'hate'.

Maybe you should tell the police.


 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 13 Mar 19 12.20pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

You have your view ,I have mine.
All I know is my vote won in a referendum that I believe is good for the long term.

Why do you ridicule people for their beliefs and what they value.

Apologies if you felt I was ridiculing. Is it not a fair question to ask if someone is adamant their kids will thank them that there must be something more substantive to base it on?

I know who would thank him, Jacob rich mogg, 7 million times

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Mar 19 12.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

40 years in the EU was a long timr also! I didn't hear Heseltine asking for a democratic vote about staying or leaving during that time. All to convenient and you lot are so transparent

Edited by dannyboy1978 (13 Mar 2019 12.10pm)


This is a powerful point.

Of those that push for a second vote.....I imagine few if any of them argued that it was democratic to hold the original referendum.....when it was obvious that a large part of the country was unhappy with the EU.

So when they make the argument now for 'sentiment' in the country....well...there is a giant hole in their arguments that they can't fill.

They don't really care about fairness....only about winning.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Mar 19 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


'Hate'?

Blimey Maple.

Well, I don't hate you or your kids......You could dress up in EU flag clothes and sing 'Ode to Joy' all day.....Hate?

I am afraid they do Stirling. As you know, the young tend to be quite holier than thou. They feel deeply let down

Tux is also right, this generation will never forgive the over 65 generation for many things. Their view is that their future was stolen by those who decided to feather their nests at the expense of future generations. DB pensions, control over housing and ridiculous levels of debt being the clearest examples. It seems we are all stuck with being poorer than previous generations and that will get worse as a result of Brexit. Still, maybe it will get better in 20 years' time eh! Meanwhile lets all watch the oldies going on their world cruises.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Mar 19 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


This is a powerful point.

Of those that push for a second vote.....I imagine few if any of them argued that it was democratic to hold the original referendum.....when it was obvious that a large part of the country was unhappy with the EU.

So when they make the argument now for 'sentiment' in the country....well...there is a giant hole in their arguments that they can't fill.

They don't really care about fairness....only about winning.

It's not about fairness. It's the economy stupid.

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 13 Mar 19 12.48pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Pussay thinks that everyone who voted for Brexit is deluded, insane and thick as a brick so you got off lightly being called a mug

He should just accept the result and move on, no point in getting upset about it.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Mar 19 12.57pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


This is a powerful point.

Of those that push for a second vote.....I imagine few if any of them argued that it was democratic to hold the original referendum.....when it was obvious that a large part of the country was unhappy with the EU.

So when they make the argument now for 'sentiment' in the country....well...there is a giant hole in their arguments that they can't fill.

They don't really care about fairness....only about winning.

It’s not at all powerful - it’s a point which I must have read 20 times in this thread alone.

Following that, you’ve made up a position, pointed out a hole in said made-up position, an then concluded with a sentence that could be applied to the vast majority of the electorate when it comes to Brexit.

Some form of second vote or general election is an inevitably now from what I can see - I don’t see any other way the stalemate is broken; the commons will vote down no deal tonight.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 13 Mar 19 12.57pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Apologies if you felt I was ridiculing. Is it not a fair question to ask if someone is adamant their kids will thank them that there must be something more substantive to base it on?

I know who would thank him, Jacob rich mogg, 7 million times

It doesn't matter if it's a fair question or not. I voted for my reasons and you voted for yours. Some voted because all they care about is money and growth, some voted because of suppressed wages, some voted because of to much immigration, everyone is different and no one person is 100% right. All I know is I voted long term and I hope my kids will benifit from my decision.


 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

It’s not at all powerful - it’s a point which I must have read 20 times in this thread alone.

Following that, you’ve made up a position, pointed out a hole in said made-up position, an then concluded with a sentence that could be applied to the vast majority of the electorate when it comes to Brexit.

'Made up a position'?

In what way is that made up? It's a statement of reality that I'm happy for you to show me is incorrect.


 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

It's not about fairness. It's the economy stupid.


You mean this economy.....you know the one doing better than any other EU economy.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Mar 19 1.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I am afraid they do Stirling. As you know, the young tend to be quite holier than thou. They feel deeply let down

Tux is also right, this generation will never forgive the over 65 generation for many things. Their view is that their future was stolen by those who decided to feather their nests at the expense of future generations. DB pensions, control over housing and ridiculous levels of debt being the clearest examples. It seems we are all stuck with being poorer than previous generations and that will get worse as a result of Brexit. Still, maybe it will get better in 20 years' time eh! Meanwhile lets all watch the oldies going on their world cruises.


Your kids feel 'deeply let down do they'?....I wonder why they feel like that? Your politics perhaps? Anyway...what are they owned again? Who was looking out for my future as a teenager? Eh....Where was this expectation for others to think how I wished them to think back then?

As for the point about generations Oh please....like this lot are somehow are going to be more ethical than the last lot. The young always talk nonsense. When in reality when they start working and paying tax they will do as much as they can to feather their own nests and than use BS to justify it to themselves and others......just like their parents did.....and the ones before them.

 


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