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Stirlingsays 27 May 17 9.16pm
Originally posted by black eagle. Stirlingsays who do you think wins the election? Tories or Labour? The Tories will win easily and increase their majority. What amazes me is that this is even in question. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

27 May 17 9.16pm

Originally posted by black eagle.

Stirlingsays who do you think wins the election?
Tories or Labour?

The Tories will win easily and increase their majority.

What amazes me is that this is even in question.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

black eagle. south croydon. 27 May 17 9.24pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The Tories will win easily and increase their majority. What amazes me is that this is even in question. Not really into politics but was talking to someone thee other day who is who thinks Labour are closing the gap. Just thought i'd ask as your Mr politics on Hol.

black eagle.

south croydon. 27 May 17 9.24pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The Tories will win easily and increase their majority.

What amazes me is that this is even in question.

Not really into politics but was talking to someone thee other day who is who thinks Labour are closing the gap.

Just thought i'd ask as your Mr politics on Hol.

.TUX. 27 May 17 9.28pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger With the greatest respect, you are talking nonsense. There has never been a time in British history when so many have enjoyed a comfortable existence as they do now. You need to do more research. My grandparents did. My parents did. Both could afford a home. Both had jobs. I guess yours did too? Why do facts upset you so much? Edited by .TUX. (27 May 2017 9.29pm) Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

27 May 17 9.28pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

With the greatest respect, you are talking nonsense.

There has never been a time in British history when so many have enjoyed a comfortable existence as they do now.

You need to do more research.

My grandparents did. My parents did.
Both could afford a home. Both had jobs.
I guess yours did too?

Why do facts upset you so much?

Edited by .TUX. (27 May 2017 9.29pm)

Buy Litecoin.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 May 17 9.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Anyone who even remotely thinks Corbyn's Labour has a chance of winning needs to join a search party for their other brain cell. I shouldn't mock I know....but I'm going to enjoy the day after the election on here. It'll be closer than you think.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 27 May 17 9.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anyone who even remotely thinks Corbyn's Labour has a chance of winning needs to join a search party for their other brain cell.

I shouldn't mock I know....but I'm going to enjoy the day after the election on here.

It'll be closer than you think.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 May 17 9.31pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Anyone who even remotely thinks Corbyn's Labour has a chance of winning needs to join a search party for their other brain cell. I shouldn't mock I know....but I'm going to enjoy the day after the election on here. It'll be closer than you think.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 27 May 17 9.31pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anyone who even remotely thinks Corbyn's Labour has a chance of winning needs to join a search party for their other brain cell.

I shouldn't mock I know....but I'm going to enjoy the day after the election on here.

It'll be closer than you think.

.TUX. 27 May 17 9.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Keep enjoying that kool aid Corbynisa. Keep being blinkered. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

27 May 17 9.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Keep enjoying that kool aid Corbynisa.

Keep being blinkered.

Buy Litecoin.

Stirlingsays 27 May 17 9.37pm
Originally posted by nickgusset It'll be closer than you think. We shall see. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

27 May 17 9.37pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

It'll be closer than you think.

We shall see.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 27 May 17 10.13pm
Originally posted by .TUX. My grandparents did. My parents did. Both could afford a home. Both had jobs. I guess yours did too? Why do facts upset you so much? Edited by .TUX. (27 May 2017 9.29pm) I will concede that there is an issue with the housing boom which makes getting on the first rung hard for many. A lot of first time buyers rely on the bank of mum and dad. Most people have jobs now if they want one and unemployment was far worse in the 70's and 80's. Before we had mass immigration, there was an employment shortage in the 50's and 60's which meant jobs were easier to come by. All of these phases have been relatively short term and do not alter the fact that standards of living have been on an upward curve. You have to look at the average and not individual circumstances or short term fluctuations.

Hrolf The Ganger

27 May 17 10.13pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

My grandparents did. My parents did.
Both could afford a home. Both had jobs.
I guess yours did too?

Why do facts upset you so much?

Edited by .TUX. (27 May 2017 9.29pm)

I will concede that there is an issue with the housing boom which makes getting on the first rung hard for many. A lot of first time buyers rely on the bank of mum and dad.

Most people have jobs now if they want one and unemployment was far worse in the 70's and 80's.

Before we had mass immigration, there was an employment shortage in the 50's and 60's which meant jobs were easier to come by.

All of these phases have been relatively short term and do not alter the fact that standards of living have been on an upward curve. You have to look at the average and not individual circumstances or short term fluctuations.

hedgehog50 Croydon 27 May 17 10.18pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I will concede that there is an issue with the housing boom which makes getting on the first rung hard for many. A lot of first time buyers rely on the bank of mum and dad. Most people have jobs now if they want one and unemployment was far worse in the 70's and 80's. Before we had mass immigration, there was an employment shortage in the 50's and 60's which meant jobs were easier to come by. All of these phases have been relatively short term and do not alter the fact that standards of living have been on an upward curve. You have to look at the average and not individual circumstances or short term fluctuations. Young people understandably feel they are losing any stake in the current scheme of things. crippling debt for a university education, relatively poor wages, no prospect of home ownership, poor pension provision. It leads to social problems and lack of any spirit of citizenship. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 27 May 17 10.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I will concede that there is an issue with the housing boom which makes getting on the first rung hard for many. A lot of first time buyers rely on the bank of mum and dad.

Young people understandably feel they are losing any stake in the current scheme of things. crippling debt for a university education, relatively poor wages, no prospect of home ownership, poor pension provision. It leads to social problems and lack of any spirit of citizenship.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50 Croydon 27 May 17 10.25pm
Originally posted by nickgusset It'll be closer than you think. I actually agree with you for once Nick. I'll be surprised if the allocation of seats actually changes much. I think the Tory campaign has been abysmal, the worst I can remember. Labour, apart from the Diane Abbott melt down, have been much better. Just hope we don't get a coalition of the so called progressives, which would of course usher in all the economic problems wrongly predicted for Brexit, as well as shackling us to all the EU crap that the progressives value so much. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 27 May 17 10.25pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

It'll be closer than you think.

I actually agree with you for once Nick. I'll be surprised if the allocation of seats actually changes much. I think the Tory campaign has been abysmal, the worst I can remember. Labour, apart from the Diane Abbott melt down, have been much better. Just hope we don't get a coalition of the so called progressives, which would of course usher in all the economic problems wrongly predicted for Brexit, as well as shackling us to all the EU crap that the progressives value so much.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

.TUX. 27 May 17 11.17pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I will concede that there is an issue with the housing boom which makes getting on the first rung hard for many. A lot of first time buyers rely on the bank of mum and dad. Most people have jobs now if they want one and unemployment was far worse in the 70's and 80's. Before we had mass immigration, there was an employment shortage in the 50's and 60's which meant jobs were easier to come by. All of these phases have been relatively short term and do not alter the fact that standards of living have been on an upward curve. You have to look at the average and not individual circumstances or short term fluctuations. For me, the saddest thing is that yourself and 'Stirling', two bright lads in a world full of divs, cannot see beyond 'party colours' despite things being far worse for our children than they ever were for us. Oh well. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

27 May 17 11.17pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I will concede that there is an issue with the housing boom which makes getting on the first rung hard for many. A lot of first time buyers rely on the bank of mum and dad.

For me, the saddest thing is that yourself and 'Stirling', two bright lads in a world full of divs, cannot see beyond 'party colours' despite things being far worse for our children than they ever were for us.

Oh well.

Buy Litecoin.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 May 17 9.16am
Speaking with someone who is a forensic accountant yesterday at the beer festival they mentioned the Tory faintest of pledge to basically scrap the serious fraud office and move its role over to the NCA. The SFO is independent and specialises in investigating and prosecuting financial crime. The move is retrograde and politically motivated to give Whitehall more control and law enforcement less scope to deal with these kind of crimes. Crimes perpetrated by bankers, tycoons and their ilk. Tory donors in other words. Another pledge that only makes us worse off as a society and is driven by ideology rather than evidence. Much like grammar schools. [Link]

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 28 May 17 9.16am

Speaking with someone who is a forensic accountant yesterday at the beer festival they mentioned the Tory faintest of pledge to basically scrap the serious fraud office and move its role over to the NCA. The SFO is independent and specialises in investigating and prosecuting financial crime. The move is retrograde and politically motivated to give Whitehall more control and law enforcement less scope to deal with these kind of crimes. Crimes perpetrated by bankers, tycoons and their ilk. Tory donors in other words. Another pledge that only makes us worse off as a society and is driven by ideology rather than evidence. Much like grammar schools.

[Link]

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 May 17 9.32am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You use police figures like you use the NHS. It's just election blah blah. Labour increased police numbers and at the same time increased the national debt. The Tories have spent the last two terms trying to pay off the interest and get spending down to a manageable level. I would like to see the necessary number of police on the streets but strangely that number always seems to be more than there actually is at any given time. Numbers are just reducing to the levels they were at before Labour overspending. Shame your analysis of the debt is wrong. Tories have a woeful record on debt.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 28 May 17 9.32am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You use police figures like you use the NHS. It's just election blah blah.
Labour increased police numbers and at the same time increased the national debt. The Tories have spent the last two terms trying to pay off the interest and get spending down to a manageable level.
I would like to see the necessary number of police on the streets but strangely that number always seems to be more than there actually is at any given time. Numbers are just reducing to the levels they were at before Labour overspending.

Shame your analysis of the debt is wrong. Tories have a woeful record on debt.

hedgehog50 Croydon 28 May 17 9.54am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Speaking with someone who is a forensic accountant yesterday at the beer festival they mentioned the Tory faintest of pledge to basically scrap the serious fraud office and move its role over to the NCA. The SFO is independent and specialises in investigating and prosecuting financial crime. The move is retrograde and politically motivated to give Whitehall more control and law enforcement less scope to deal with these kind of crimes. Crimes perpetrated by bankers, tycoons and their ilk. Tory donors in other words. Another pledge that only makes us worse off as a society and is driven by ideology rather than evidence. Much like grammar schools. [Link] 'Much like grammar schools'. What a fool you are. I went to a grammar school. My father was a bricklayer and we lived in a two up two down terraced house, had an outside loo and no bathroom until I was 10. Despite my unprivileged background, I received a good education thanks to grammar schools - I even know about 20th century British history, like the Cambridge spy ring. I have come across cases where products of the modern education system have a shocking ignorance of such history. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 28 May 17 9.54am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

[Link]

'Much like grammar schools'. What a fool you are. I went to a grammar school. My father was a bricklayer and we lived in a two up two down terraced house, had an outside loo and no bathroom until I was 10. Despite my unprivileged background, I received a good education thanks to grammar schools - I even know about 20th century British history, like the Cambridge spy ring. I have come across cases where products of the modern education system have a shocking ignorance of such history.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Hrolf The Ganger 28 May 17 10.32am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Shame your analysis of the debt is wrong. Tories have a woeful record on debt. Strange how no one trusts Labour with the economy then. One reason whey they will lose yet another election.

Hrolf The Ganger

28 May 17 10.32am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Shame your analysis of the debt is wrong. Tories have a woeful record on debt.

Strange how no one trusts Labour with the economy then.

One reason whey they will lose yet another election.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 May 17 11.12am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 'Much like grammar schools'. What a fool you are. I went to a grammar school. My father was a bricklayer and we lived in a two up two down terraced house, had an outside loo and no bathroom until I was 10. Despite my unprivileged background, I received a good education thanks to grammar schools - I even know about 20th century British history, like the Cambridge spy ring. I have come across cases where products of the modern education system have a shocking ignorance of such history. Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 28 May 17 11.12am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes.

Hrolf The Ganger 28 May 17 11.16am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes. So you went to one, got a degree and now condemn them. Hmmm. Are you Diane Abbott in disguise? No you can't be. She doesn't do economics.

Hrolf The Ganger

28 May 17 11.16am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes.

So you went to one, got a degree and now condemn them.

Hmmm. Are you Diane Abbott in disguise?

No you can't be. She doesn't do economics.

hedgehog50 Croydon 28 May 17 11.19am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes. Must have been bad if you didn't learn about the biggest spy ring in British history. Your prejudice against grammar schools is based on your left wing ideology and dogma, not evidence. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 28 May 17 11.19am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes.

Must have been bad if you didn't learn about the biggest spy ring in British history.
Your prejudice against grammar schools is based on your left wing ideology and dogma, not evidence.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 28 May 17 11.26am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes. You really do switch things from one thing to another. You praise Grammar schools one minute then you run them down. I really do think you need to get a grip and stop being an ass. There is absolutely NO chance that Labour will win this coming election. The only reason that the polls have got both parties so close is because the media has admitted they have given Corbyn much more air time than Theresa May while she has been away dealing with important matters on security with all the other nations and other matters also. There is no-one in this country that wants to see Corbyn and Abbot running the country. You only had to watch her this morning on the Marr show waffling on as she always does in her usual moaning voice and will never answer a straight question with a straight answer. She is a total waste of space and only in the shadow cabinet because of her past "Friendship" with Corbyn who I might add must have had a few beers or shots before his "Liaison" with her initially. Or he was really hard up! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 28 May 17 11.26am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Grammar schools are great if you're lucky enough to go to one. I went to one. Bad in general though. This is backed up by evidence rather than anecdotes.

You really do switch things from one thing to another.
You praise Grammar schools one minute then you run them down. I really do think you need to get a grip and stop being an ass. There is absolutely NO chance that Labour will win this coming election. The only reason that the polls have got both parties so close is because the media has admitted they have given Corbyn much more air time than Theresa May while she has been away dealing with important matters on security with all the other nations and other matters also. There is no-one in this country that wants to see Corbyn and Abbot running the country. You only had to watch her this morning on the Marr show waffling on as she always does in her usual moaning voice and will never answer a straight question with a straight answer. She is a total waste of space and only in the shadow cabinet because of her past "Friendship" with Corbyn who I might add must have had a few beers or shots before his "Liaison" with her initially. Or he was really hard up!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 May 17 12.03pm
Originally posted by susmik You really do switch things from one thing to another. You praise Grammar schools one minute then you run them down. I really do think you need to get a grip and stop being an ass. There is absolutely NO chance that Labour will win this coming election. The only reason that the polls have got both parties so close is because the media has admitted they have given Corbyn much more air time than Theresa May while she has been away dealing with important matters on security with all the other nations and other matters also. There is no-one in this country that wants to see Corbyn and Abbot running the country. You only had to watch her this morning on the Marr show waffling on as she always does in her usual moaning voice and will never answer a straight question with a straight answer. She is a total waste of space and only in the shadow cabinet because of her past "Friendship" with Corbyn who I might add must have had a few beers or shots before his "Liaison" with her initially. Or he was really hard up! It's always personal attacks rather than attacks on policy.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 May 17 12.03pm

Originally posted by susmik

It's always personal attacks rather than attacks on policy.

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