Utter PC crap. If I went on holiday to Nigeria and somebody wanted to point me out I would expect to be called the white man.

Not the 6ft guy with brown hair when the bleeding obvious is my skin colour

Only by those who don't really understand how British democracy actually functions. Such people aren't a new phenomenon in UK politics.

Which is why the point needs to be endlessly repeated to ensure it isn't trampled on by the jack boots of the right.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Thank god we have you to enlighten us though. I feel so lucky to have found you through here.

That said, you state that it is MP’s jobs to make the decisions and the vote to leave was as much in some parts about making a statement about the unelected officials who make decisions within the EU boundaries as it was the UK. The EU could have cut the whole issue off at the pass, but they didn’t. They thought that inertia and fear of the unknown would be enough.

My reason for voting out was nothing to do with immigration. It was to do with making the EU take notice. A Greece, a Portugal an Ireland were countries that needed propping up and had signed up in full to “European Project”. The only way the EU would reform is if a large contributor pulled out. You can’t change something so corrupt from within.

Ask yourself this. Do you believe that all 52% are knuckle dragging “Britain first” racists or maybe that some educated people voted out as well? We all had our reasons.

It’s the same as I don’t believe all 48% of Remainers are superior
acting, condescending, patronising arses. Despite what the loud ones say.

Steve Parish employs quite a few immigrants for a knuckle dragging racist

If you find facts boring then sobeit. That's your own responsibility. As I said before I only repeat them when others claim something else. This is not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact.

Burke isn't "my hero" at all. He just happens to have been the first person to eloquently express the principal. Many have confirmed it subsequently, including Churchill.

It is completely irrelevant that the people who can vote has expanded since Burke. That's the reddest of red herrings. The fact is that you cannot change facts and it is a fact that we have a representative democracy. The inescapable consequence of that fact is that our representatives are not, and cannot be, delegates. The inescapable consequence of that being that they must rely on their own judgements and not anyone else's.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

The Commission is unelected and introduces law and policy - not all of which requires EU parliament consent. It also negotiates trade deals independently of the EU Council and Parliament. So it does, in some cases, make decisions without a democratic mandate to do so.

Red and Blue Army!

Do you believe that if you spout shyte enough times that people will believe you?

Your usage of the word "inescapable" is bollox as neither of your examples are at all inescapable as indicated by the Government's grant of a referendum and promise to abide by the result

The referendum could not have been held unless Parliament had agreed to it. It wasn't "granted" by the government at all. They just proposed it. Parliament's involvement was indeed inescapable.

You don't have to believe me. You just need to check the facts.

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Neither could they have accurately have "promised" to abide by the result. That they did so was misleading at best and fake at worse. It always depended on Parliament. Note the word "consultative" in the linked piece.

So I regret to tell you that the "bollox" and the "shyte" are all yours.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Well done for completely sweeping and missing the context of the point being made.

Still anything to get you up on your soapbox eh.

Essentially for all your “waxing lyrical”,- you’re a bigot. Everything you accuse everyone else of, you’re guilty of yourself.

I don't need to understand the ins and outs of democracy to the finest detail, I'm just a pleb like your self. Us plebs listen to the professional politicians like the priminister who tells the country it's a once in a life time dicision. We then take that word as true like a person of law in court, or any other professional offering a contact.
The damage would have been far reaching if we had not left and our democracy would have been hugely damaged more so than huge down turn you remoaners promised the day the leave vote came in.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Feb 2020 4.45pm)