You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic
November 4 2026 3.30pm

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

The Brexit Thread (LOCKED)


Page 1516 of 1552 < 1512 1513 1514 1515 1516 1517 1518 1519 1520 >
serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 16 Oct 20 4.53pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Ah, yes. The "won't someone think of the children?" approach. If only we'd cared as much about the sectoral, societal and constitutional damage our membership has inflicted over the years.

1. If the EU wish to further politicise trade by making the point of preventing export of goods to the UK (not even sure how they could do that), then there's not a lot we can do other than... let's see: seek alternative suppliers that are not bound to the political whims of a supposed "trade union" with delusions of superstatehood. I don't see any signals from the UK that they will block imports from the EU.

2. If a business has not been working on contingencies for this eventuality since the 2016 referendum vote, and will be "f*cked overnight", I would suggest they aren't particularly robust as a business, and a competitor capable of acting on non-glacial timescales would be rightly better off in competition against them.

3. I would rather not put a price on the ability of the UK to conduct our own affairs without econding into law the interference, legal oversight and malicious agenda from an economic competitor.

This is all entirely academic though. Depressingly, it's just a ruse. You'll have your beloved deal, and we'll be subject to all manner of EU control mechanisms that the Canadians, South Koreans or Japanese would never even dream of accepting.

The difference being that none of those countries have a border with the EU, or a tunnel running under the sea connecting them to the EU, or thousands of lorries which make the journey across from the EU every day carrying goods and supplies.

From an outsider perspective (I didn't vote in the referendum), seeing the Tories so brazenly disregard the CBI is incredible. I know many crazy things are happening right now, but never in my lifetime did I imagine that the party of business would act so evidently against the interests of businesses.

40% of our laws are going to disappear overnight. The opportunities for exploitation and corruption are going to be extraordinary. I think the most comparable example would be post-Soviet Russia, and I don't think it's beyond the realms to imagine that the next few years will be similar to that in this country.

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

cryrst Flag The garden of England 16 Oct 20 9.34pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

The difference being that none of those countries have a border with the EU, or a tunnel running under the sea connecting them to the EU, or thousands of lorries which make the journey across from the EU every day carrying goods and supplies.

From an outsider perspective (I didn't vote in the referendum), seeing the Tories so brazenly disregard the CBI is incredible. I know many crazy things are happening right now, but never in my lifetime did I imagine that the party of business would act so evidently against the interests of businesses.

40% of our laws are going to disappear overnight. The opportunities for exploitation and corruption are going to be extraordinary. I think the most comparable example would be post-Soviet Russia, and I don't think it's beyond the realms to imagine that the next few years will be similar to that in this country.

If you didnt vote then why are you bothered.
You didnt care back then but now you do.
Strange as apathy is probably why you are on here telling brexiteers how wrong they are/were.
An extra half a million like you actually voting might well have swung the result the way you wanted it to go. Never mind though I'm sure you will vote in three years.

 

serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 16 Oct 20 10.03pm

Originally posted by cryrst

If you didnt vote then why are you bothered.
You didnt care back then but now you do.
Strange as apathy is probably why you are on here telling brexiteers how wrong they are/were.
An extra half a million like you actually voting might well have swung the result the way you wanted it to go. Never mind though I'm sure you will vote in three years.

Maybe I'm not. I mean I'm a communist really so the idea you'd piss off the CBI is a good thing to me. I'm just surprised so many of you have become so radical really.

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Oct 20 6.15am

Originally posted by serial thriller

Maybe I'm not. I mean I'm a communist really so the idea you'd piss off the CBI is a good thing to me. I'm just surprised so many of you have become so radical really.

Radical!
Wanting to have a bit more self control over national matters is radical. How is the planet zog?

 

davenotamonkey Flag 19 Oct 20 12.28am

Originally posted by serial thriller

The difference being that none of those countries have a border with the EU, or a tunnel running under the sea connecting them to the EU, or thousands of lorries which make the journey across from the EU every day carrying goods and supplies.

From an outsider perspective (I didn't vote in the referendum), seeing the Tories so brazenly disregard the CBI is incredible. I know many crazy things are happening right now, but never in my lifetime did I imagine that the party of business would act so evidently against the interests of businesses.

40% of our laws are going to disappear overnight. The opportunities for exploitation and corruption are going to be extraordinary. I think the most comparable example would be post-Soviet Russia, and I don't think it's beyond the realms to imagine that the next few years will be similar to that in this country.

?

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 Oct 20 8.41am

Originally posted by serial thriller

The difference being that none of those countries have a border with the EU, or a tunnel running under the sea connecting them to the EU, or thousands of lorries which make the journey across from the EU every day carrying goods and supplies.

From an outsider perspective (I didn't vote in the referendum), seeing the Tories so brazenly disregard the CBI is incredible. I know many crazy things are happening right now, but never in my lifetime did I imagine that the party of business would act so evidently against the interests of businesses.

40% of our laws are going to disappear overnight. The opportunities for exploitation and corruption are going to be extraordinary. I think the most comparable example would be post-Soviet Russia, and I don't think it's beyond the realms to imagine that the next few years will be similar to that in this country.

Wasn’t the CBI one of the Organizations that warned that, if we voted to leave, the sky would immediately fall in, along with that idiot Carney

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 19 Oct 20 8.50am

Originally posted by serial thriller

Maybe I'm not. I mean I'm a communist really so the idea you'd piss off the CBI is a good thing to me. I'm just surprised so many of you have become so radical really.

Is anyone going to take seriously the opinions of someone, whose judgement is such, that he says, 'I'm a communist really'?

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 19 Oct 20 9.39am

Originally posted by georgenorman

Is anyone going to take seriously the opinions of someone, whose judgement is such, that he says, 'I'm a communist really'?

Yes I do.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 19 Oct 20 9.46am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Yes I do.

I accept that fellow travellers would.

 

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 19 Oct 20 12.39pm

Be glad when this is all over.

I’m a working class lad, Brexit voter. The Mrs is from the muddle classes and remainer.

Have had many an argument over this. All her middle class w@nker friends are remainers too. I’ve actually banned one couple from coming round the house.

f***ing Champaign socialists. All my mates are grafters who have had to compete for years with continued supply of non stop cheap labour forcing down their earnings. Middle classes don’t see this as they have not been affected in such a way.

It’s the working classes who have been f@cked up the ass by an open door immigration policy

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Oct 20 12.56pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Be glad when this is all over.

I’m a working class lad, Brexit voter. The Mrs is from the muddle classes and remainer.

Have had many an argument over this. All her middle class w@nker friends are remainers too. I’ve actually banned one couple from coming round the house.

f***ing Champaign socialists. All my mates are grafters who have had to compete for years with continued supply of non stop cheap labour forcing down their earnings. Middle classes don’t see this as they have not been affected in such a way.

It’s the working classes who have been f@cked up the ass by an open door immigration policy

I keep sayings lets import mass numbers of politicians, teachers, actors and anyone in the public services and drop their salaries of course. Then we'll see how many Remainers there are.

 


One more point

mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 19 Oct 20 1.45pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Be glad when this is all over.

I’m a working class lad, Brexit voter. The Mrs is from the muddle classes and remainer.

Have had many an argument over this. All her middle class w@nker friends are remainers too. I’ve actually banned one couple from coming round the house.

f***ing Champaign socialists. All my mates are grafters who have had to compete for years with continued supply of non stop cheap labour forcing down their earnings. Middle classes don’t see this as they have not been affected in such a way.

It’s the working classes who have been f@cked up the ass by an open door immigration policy

Must've been right mingers

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Oct 20 2.08pm

Originally posted by mezzer

Must've been right mingers

Didnt go bare back in the human centipede position obviously.

 

Matov Flag 19 Oct 20 5.23pm

I struggle to be sociable with any British people who supported a second referendum because they are so stupid I struggle to even understand how they remember to breathe.

Absolutely zero problem with anybody who voted Remain on June 23rd 2016 and respect that they turned up to cast a vote. But anybody who sort to have that result rendered null and void? Nah. I despise them on a visceral level.

I must have culled dozens of people from social media with the few I still converse with having been friends on a different level that makes it much more difficult for me to cut ties.

Perhaps when January 1st comes and goes and we are finally free from the shackles then I might be able to mend fences but with many of them I suspect it is not possible. Brexit really did come with a cost but I lay that all at the feet of those who sort to have the outcome of perhaps the single greatest exercises in the democratic process in the modern era scuppered.

Shame on them forever.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

davenotamonkey Flag 20 Oct 20 12.47am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Wasn’t the CBI one of the Organizations that warned that, if we voted to leave, the sky would immediately fall in, along with that idiot Carney

Yup. Just as they did on us joining the Euro, to name but one example of where you should do the exact opposite of what the CBI suggest you do.

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 20 Oct 20 2.20pm

Oops. What happened to Boris Johnson's oven ready deal?


 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

dannyboy1978 Flag 20 Oct 20 2.49pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Oops. What happened to Boris Johnson's oven ready deal?


It's called WTO same as what Australia has with the EU

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 20 Oct 20 3.09pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

It's called WTO same as what Australia has with the EU

No I think Boris said he had an oven ready withdrawal agreement. What happened there?

Yes having the exact same arrangement as a country thousands of miles away with no land borders makes perfect sense.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Oct 20 3.46pm

The best solution is simply to extend the present transition in view of the strain imposed by the pandemic.

That should avoid food shortages and price hikes and all the border lorry absurdities.

The politics has been done, the UK left early this year.

But that is only an interruption to the the UKs paranoia, it is hard to see how it will cease.

In 15 years time the tories will still be tearing the country, and themselves, apart over Europe.

In fact leaving the EU, as we can see here, just makes our lost generation even more paranoid, not less.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 Oct 20 4.38pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Oops. What happened to Boris Johnson's oven ready deal?


It's Canada plus and would be oven ready if the EU accepted it. However they haven't so we now go with no deal and tell their fishermen to keep out of our waters.

 


One more point

Page 1516 of 1552 < 1512 1513 1514 1515 1516 1517 1518 1519 1520 >

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic