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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Nov 20 5.07pm

These problems with paperwork and deliveries are what are called teething problems.
Many posters on here of both political persuasions have or had businesses. They all had teething problems. In time it will be easier and not as problematic. Patience is required as Rome wasnt and all that.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Nov 20 5.20pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Or Britain could simply decide not to bother with any of that - just say that it will then don't. A bit like how every government and the EU really works. It's not like Ireland is going to actually do anything except moan. We've our own pressing issues: the North is not one of them.
There's no 'break a deal, face the wheel': once out of the EU the rules are unenforceable, they are to many who are in the EU at the moment. Apple Tax anyone? Think they paid 81,000 rather than 13 billion - just a slight discrepancy there. Oh well, only Ireland, who cares.

Personally I would go for the ham sandwich with 10 health certificates rather than 2.

And probably get food poisoning.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Nov 20 11.36pm

EU beef with full provenance.......last seen breaking down in the 3.20 at Epsom

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Nov 20 3.58pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

EU beef with full provenance.......last seen breaking down in the 3.20 at Epsom

Looks like there is something going on over meat currently. The last beef wars went well for Ireland. Only held it back for 40 years or so.

 


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Matov Flag 26 Nov 20 8.49am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Looks like there is something going on over meat currently. The last beef wars went well for Ireland. Only held it back for 40 years or so.

To be honest I think there is a case to be made for us being willing to continue with various protections for the Irish agriculutual produce. We are their biggest market and to put it bluntly, it is not in our short, mid or long term interests to see them impovorished. Their politicians, with notable exceptions, are gobs***es of the highest order and like nothing more than prancing around pretending to be Europeans as opposed to just the West Brits they are but much like the white trash cousins you have to invite to family weddings, we do share enough DNA to mean they need special consideration.

Chuck 'em a bone (no pun intended) on issues around meat and so on is my attitude.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Nov 20 10.30am

Originally posted by Matov

To be honest I think there is a case to be made for us being willing to continue with various protections for the Irish agriculutual produce. We are their biggest market and to put it bluntly, it is not in our short, mid or long term interests to see them impovorished. Their politicians, with notable exceptions, are gobs***es of the highest order and like nothing more than prancing around pretending to be Europeans as opposed to just the West Brits they are but much like the white trash cousins you have to invite to family weddings, we do share enough DNA to mean they need special consideration.

Chuck 'em a bone (no pun intended) on issues around meat and so on is my attitude.

Agreed I have no problem with special arrangements for Irish farmers. Brexit is about the UK taking back our independence not trying to destroy our neighbours.

 


One more point

davenotamonkey Flag 26 Nov 20 10.51am

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed I have no problem with special arrangements for Irish farmers. Brexit is about the UK taking back our independence not trying to destroy our neighbours.

Perhaps the EU would be wise to reciprocate.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Nov 20 10.53am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Perhaps the EU would be wise to reciprocate.

 


One more point

davenotamonkey Flag 26 Nov 20 11.59am

Laughing all the way to the Banks.

I hope they leave Carole Codswallop with her cats at least. Take everything else though.

 

davenotamonkey Flag 26 Nov 20 12.01pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Laughing all the way to the Banks.

I hope they leave Carole Codswallop with her cats at least. Take everything else though.

Now for front page apologies and prime-time news slot retractions for all organisations that peddled this bulls*** because it was convenient for deluded remainiacs to believe in it. Come on, C4, Independent, BBC, Grauniad - should I bother holding my breath?

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 26 Nov 20 12.25pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Now for front page apologies and prime-time news slot retractions for all organisations that peddled this bulls*** because it was convenient for deluded remainiacs to believe in it. Come on, C4, Independent, BBC, Grauniad - should I bother holding my breath?

The Russians must be a little annoyed with the left.
First it was trump and now brexit.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Nov 20 12.46pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Laughing all the way to the Banks.

I hope they leave Carole Codswallop with her cats at least. Take everything else though.

I don't think the problem is a lack of evidence.

The problem is a lack of admissible evidence.

Our security services possess the evidence but they are not going to appear in Court to give it. They risk compromising their sources should they do so. So they never do so, as a matter of policy.

Carole Cadwalladr has strong contacts within our security services, which is how she broke the Cambridge Analytica scandal in the first place. She knows the truth, but knowing and proving are two different things. Hearsay evidence, even from immaculate sources, isn't admissible.

The truth will eventually be proved one day. Be patient.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Nov 20 1.26pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think the problem is a lack of evidence.

The problem is a lack of admissible evidence.

Our security services possess the evidence but they are not going to appear in Court to give it. They risk compromising their sources should they do so. So they never do so, as a matter of policy.

Carole Cadwalladr has strong contacts within our security services, which is how she broke the Cambridge Analytica scandal in the first place. She knows the truth, but knowing and proving are two different things. Hearsay evidence, even from immaculate sources, isn't admissible.

The truth will eventually be proved one day. Be patient.

-.-'

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Nov 20 7.49am

1M more EU citizens have applied to stay than government expected, the scheme has another 6 months to run so the final number will be higher.

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I would say I'm surprised but I'm not.

If I could be bothered to go back through this thread I pointed out that I expected the so called 3.4m EU citizens to be far higher and this proves the point.

The government (s) have no idea how many people actually live here 1m extra people is not insignificant especially when we come to resources such as NHS, public transport and education.

So what's the bottom line, well going back to Tony Blair and beyond the public should not believe politicians when they talk about immigration numbers.

You cannot have a fair and effective immigration policy if you continually underestimate how many people come to these shores and stay.

It's time to hold the authorities to account.

 


One more point

cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Nov 20 7.55am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think the problem is a lack of evidence.

The problem is a lack of admissible evidence.

Our security services possess the evidence but they are not going to appear in Court to give it. They risk compromising their sources should they do so. So they never do so, as a matter of policy.

Carole Cadwalladr has strong contacts within our security services, which is how she broke the Cambridge Analytica scandal in the first place. She knows the truth, but knowing and proving are two different things. Hearsay evidence, even from immaculate sources, isn't admissible.

The truth will eventually be proved one day. Be patient.

So do you agree trump has a point then. Not a lack of evidence just a lack of admissible evidence. Along side people afraid of being totally wiped out if they actually come forward. Both by antifa and the media. I'm sure the truth will be proved. One day!

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Nov 20 2.00am

Enoch Powell - On the European Union

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So much of what he says still rings true today.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Dec 20 9.50am

It's squeaky bum time in the negotiations.

Apparently the EU has hardened it's stance especially over fishing rights. Macron and Merkel are apparently playing hard ball.

My advice to Boris is stick to your guns and go for a no deal Brexit. This will be annoying to business but it's not the end of the world. I would also make it clear to the EU that no deal means no EU fishing in our waters period.

Next year Merkel is stepping down and Macron's party is facing elections. It maybe that the EU will be more flexible once the reality of the situation hits home to them. No doubt their advisors would say the same thing about the UK.

Hold firm Boris.

 


One more point

mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 04 Dec 20 9.53am

Anyone noticed how no one appears to be so worried about us "CRASHING OUT" without a deal nowadays.

Remainers couldn't even mention a deal this time last year without panicking about us "CRASHING OUT" without one. It appears to have become a phrase that was sooooo 2019.

The pandemic at least appears to have had a calming influence on some.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Matov Flag 04 Dec 20 4.36pm

Still got my fingers crossed for no deal because I simply cannot see why the EU would commit to any agreement that was not in their favour.

The starting point should have been that WTO was the default position with plenty of side deals to ensure that ran smoothly.

Still, this is the end game now and I just cannot bear the thought of all these years being utterly wasted if they sign a deal that gives the EU even a single shred of control over us.

Both sides need to a complete clean break, especially now and the UK needs to be as free as possible to cope with the s*** storm about to break. Which is going to be massively worse in the EU because the Germans are going to want to weaken the Euro considerably so they can get their export market going again. Which means a s*** storm for Southern Europe. Sod being Greek or Italian over the next couple of years. If you think things are bad now for them then it is only going to get far worse.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Stirlingsays Flag 04 Dec 20 5.16pm

It looks like the end game is upon us.

As Harold said, 'will no one rid us of these onion eaters!'.....Albeit he'd have to expand that menu somewhat.

And I talk only of the over powerful EU gravy train institutions, not of most of my fellow Europeans.

 


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