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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Dec 20 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It looks like the end game is upon us. As Harold said, 'will no one rid us of these onion eaters!'.....Albeit he'd have to expand that menu somewhat. And I talk only of the over powerful EU gravy train institutions, not of most of my fellow Europeans. There will probably be a shortage of onions. People will have to use leeks instead.
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Eaglecoops  CR3 04 Dec 20 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't think the problem is a lack of evidence. The problem is a lack of admissible evidence. Our security services possess the evidence but they are not going to appear in Court to give it. They risk compromising their sources should they do so. So they never do so, as a matter of policy. Carole Cadwalladr has strong contacts within our security services, which is how she broke the Cambridge Analytica scandal in the first place. She knows the truth, but knowing and proving are two different things. Hearsay evidence, even from immaculate sources, isn't admissible. The truth will eventually be proved one day. Be patient. How can you have such knowledge of what the security services know and don’t know? If you did because you have connections then you wouldn’t be sharing that information. Either that, or expect a knock on the door soon.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Dec 20 6.21pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
There will probably be a shortage of onions. People will have to use leeks instead. Ah the crunch of EU freedom.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Spiderman Horsham 04 Dec 20 6.34pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If there is a negotiated deal here, it is not a 'done' deal. After the political leaders rejoicing, the member states will be picking through the details or lack thereof. The ratification of the EU parliament is definitely not a 'fait accompli' here, and it is required. All the UK had to do here was to extend so they had time to complete a comprehensive deal. As a matter of interest how much longer should we extend?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 04 Dec 20 6.46pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If there is a negotiated deal here, it is not a 'done' deal. After the political leaders rejoicing, the member states will be picking through the details or lack thereof. The ratification of the EU parliament is definitely not a 'fait accompli' here, and it is required. All the UK had to do here was to extend so they had time to complete a comprehensive deal. The EU have dragged out these negotiations the same as the withdrawal agreement. We wanted to start these talks in January the EU said March / April. Every time we have tried to speed them up with multiple threads the EU has blocked it and now they have the cheek to say we should ask for an extension. If we have a deal agreed then of course it would make sense to extend the deadline from Dec 31 for say a month to allow the EU and our Parliament to ratify. If a deal is not agreed this weekend I would walk away for six months by which time things would be a lot clearer and hopefully the EU more wiling to negotiate. Time for Boris to walk away.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Dec 20 6.53pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ah the crunch of EU freedom. Le crunch
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Dec 20 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
As a matter of interest how much longer should we extend? This can only be a basic deal due to the shortage of time, the details and matters not concluded will continue anyway. Five years or so. This is all politics and brinkmanship, rushing for a deal at any cost.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Dec 20 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
As a matter of interest how much longer should we extend? About six inches and a bit usually.
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cryrst  The garden of England 04 Dec 20 7.32pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
This can only be a basic deal due to the shortage of time, the details and matters not concluded will continue anyway. Five years or so. This is all politics and brinkmanship, rushing for a deal at any cost. I see a logic but as the poster asked how long.
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| Spiderman Horsham 04 Dec 20 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
This can only be a basic deal due to the shortage of time, the details and matters not concluded will continue anyway. Five years or so. This is all politics and brinkmanship, rushing for a deal at any cost. Shortage of time? Ffs how long has this been going on? 5 years, so to incorporate another election, hoping Keir “ we must remain at all costs Starmer” gets elected. Clever thinking well done
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| Spiderman Horsham 04 Dec 20 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
About six inches and a bit usually. Show off
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Dec 20 8.11pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Shortage of time? Ffs how long has this been going on? 5 years, so to incorporate another election, hoping Keir “ we must remain at all costs Starmer” gets elected. Clever thinking well done The UK left the EU in January this year, so it is only 11 months. Starmer supports brexit as far as I know.
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| Spiderman Horsham 04 Dec 20 8.42pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The UK left the EU in January this year, so it is only 11 months. Starmer supports brexit as far as I know.
I thought he voted to remain and advocated a 2nd referendum, I may be wrong.
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| cryrst The garden of England 04 Dec 20 9.23pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Show off I suppose everyones shrinks in the winter
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| Matov 04 Dec 20 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I thought he voted to remain and advocated a 2nd referendum, I may be wrong. Only to get rid of Corbyn. Now he is Mr Brexit. And wants to let it be known that when he proposed and championed a second referendum he had his fingers crossed behind his back the entire time.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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jeeagles  05 Dec 20 2.10am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I thought he voted to remain and advocated a 2nd referendum, I may be wrong. Former Human Rights Lawyer. Massive supporter of both the ECHR and the EU throughout.
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| Spiderman Horsham 05 Dec 20 8.33am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Ex Pats complaining they can only live in the EU 90 days a year. This story has been in several papers for the last few days. Sorry I have little sympathy the media is blowing this out of proportion. If you want to stay longer simply apply for a visa. I have friends who live in the EU the process may vary by country but at the end of the day it's still a visa / residency process. Yet again it's the EU playing hard ball as EU citizens can live here for 6 months. Anyway I suspect the rules will change once they realise who spends the money. Surely those ex-pats have had the opportunity to apply for residency until now, as have EU nationals here? The fact they haven’t bothered is their fault
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| Badger11 Beckenham 05 Dec 20 8.37am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Surely those ex-pats have had the opportunity to apply for residency until now, as have EU nationals here? The fact they haven’t bothered is their fault Exactly. A friend moved to Italy last year and applied and got residency it took a while and cost a few thousand unlike our free visa process but that's the wonderful EU for you.
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