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 Hrolf The Ganger  24 Mar 19 5.29pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
There is something called a no deal brexit. Then there is the opposite which necessitates a withdrawal agreement or “deal”. What are the “prescribed steps to leave” exactly if you don’t have a withdrawal agreement then?
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| Maine Eagle USA 24 Mar 19 5.31pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
I absolutely am not and you've just shown your complete ignorance. There is no obligation to negotiate a single thing, nor pay a single bean. You serve notice. You follow the prescribed steps to leave. They have chosen to negotiate an international treaty which is completely separate to the process of leaving the EU, yet they present it as being a condition. Edited by ChrisGC (24 Mar 2019 5.22pm)
Please read point 2 under “procedure” and see if you can learn something here today.
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| Mapletree Croydon 24 Mar 19 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But ships can only sail when the tide is in their favour Hrolf. That's nautical innit.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.33pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
There is something called a no deal brexit. Then there is the opposite which necessitates a withdrawal agreement or “deal”. What are the “prescribed steps to leave” exactly if you don’t have a withdrawal agreement then?
There is absolutely no such thing as deal or no deal. It's a proposed international treaty which is in specific regard to our relationship to the EU AFTER withdrawal. We had no obligation to enter the negotiation and it matters not one hoot whether we enact it as law or not in regards to our withdrawal from the EU. Article 50 is just the legal vehicle to facilitate us paying up our notice and wrapping up our involvement of EU membership. Perhaps we should have a second vote. There's clearly people out there who haven't got a f***ing clue what's going on the remain side...
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Mar 19 5.35pm |
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Will of the people is just a smokescreen. The issue is competence. The EU has it, the UK doesn't. In the end sending a robot to Brussels to spout 'will of the people', exhausted the EU leaders as it was obvious the PM had no plan except for being defeated over and over again in the UK parliament. By the way how does a minority government propped up by bribing 10 Northern Irish MPs come to lecture people about democracy ??????????
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Please read point 2 under “procedure” and see if you can learn something here today. Oh dear. You didn't read the whole section, did you? The procedure for withdrawal involves a framework which ceases to be binding on actually leaving and is superceded by the state's constitution. Please stop now, this is getting embarrassing.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Mar 19 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Oh dear. You didn't read the whole section, did you? The procedure for withdrawal involves a framework which ceases to be binding on actually leaving and is superceded by the state's constitution. Please stop now, this is getting embarrassing. Try adjusting to the real world, no matter how painful.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 19 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
But ships can only sail when the tide is in their favour Hrolf. That's nautical innit. Your ship sunk in the harbour. It was full of holes.
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| Maine Eagle USA 24 Mar 19 5.39pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
There is absolutely no such thing as deal or no deal. It's a proposed international treaty which is in specific regard to our relationship to the EU AFTER withdrawal. We had no obligation to enter the negotiation and it matters not one hoot whether we enact it as law or not in regards to our withdrawal from the EU. Article 50 is just the legal vehicle to facilitate us paying up our notice and wrapping up our involvement of EU membership. Perhaps we should have a second vote. There's clearly people out there who haven't got a f***ing clue what's going on the remain side... You are so ill informed on so many levels. There is no such thing as a deal (leaving with an agreed withdrawal agreement) or no deal (not having an agreed withdrawal agreement) in your world? Sorry but you are simply wrong. No obligation to enter the negotiation? Please see my previous link to the Wikipedia page about how to leave the EU, process section, point 2. It quite clearly states the process involved mandates entering into a negotiation, the output of which is a “withdrawal agreement”. Just because you think or say something, it doesn’t make it reality.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You are so ill informed on so many levels. There is no such thing as a deal (leaving with an agreed withdrawal agreement) or no deal (not having an agreed withdrawal agreement) in your world? Sorry but you are simply wrong. No obligation to enter the negotiation? Please see my previous link to the Wikipedia page about how to leave the EU, process section, point 2. It quite clearly states the process involved mandates entering into a negotiation, the output of which is a “withdrawal agreement”. [Link] Please take your own advice. This is just getting more and more cringey.
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| Maine Eagle USA 24 Mar 19 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What are you afraid of?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 19 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Will of the people is just a smokescreen. The issue is competence. The EU has it, the UK doesn't. In the end sending a robot to Brussels to spout 'will of the people', exhausted the EU leaders as it was obvious the PM had no plan except for being defeated over and over again in the UK parliament. By the way how does a minority government propped up by bribing 10 Northern Irish MPs come to lecture people about democracy ??????????
That must be why it's doing so well.
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