Jeez, i served my country for the likes of you.

The 'Poppy' is not & never has been a political message, it is a symbol of a destructive war & a remembrance of all the people that died.

Taking the knee as you call it, has EVERYTHING to do with Marxism its all about BLM.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

I doubt many, if any, at Palace will boo. But they have a right to. It isn't racist to not support taking the knee. But, of course, the FA are investigating 'crowd incidents' at Millwall and Colchester as the fans haven't stayed 'on message'. I'm off to polish my medallion and get my chest hair dyed.
The players can take adulation but can't take any criticism. What are they - f@cking babies? How many times does it need to be spelled out, BLM is not relevant to the fans or the footballers anymore, no matter how much they want to cry wolf all the time. It's the political equivalent of rolling around holding your face, when someone lightly touched your sleeve in the box.
It has been so long since I've seen racism at football that I nearly would be harking back to the 70s,particularly from our fans. That's how irrelevant this is.

Red and Blue Army!

Glad to see such sympathy for those who gave their lives.

So you can understand and see as valid people who see the poppy differently from you.

But you can't understand and see as valid people who see BLM political gestures differently from you.

Mmmm...kind of convenient isn't it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 6.09pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Again, no. I can understand why you don't agree with taking the knee. What I don't accept is being so self-centred as to boo as if even having to watch it for 5 seconds was an insult to your human rights. This is an issue for black people, which mostly black footballers are raising. Having thousands of white people booing rather than listening says a lot really.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Oh yes, the streets of Britain are just awash with racial injustice.
Even if they were, taking a knee won't fix it and would be far more likely to inflame it.

Black lives matter is a stupid choice of slogan and just happens to also be the name of a Marxist organisation.

Hmmm! What should we do?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Dec 2020 6.15pm)

An issue for black people?

In part yeah, but the main drivers seem to be monied white elites.

Black people like every group differ.

Coventry and QPR are more multi racial than Millwall yet they stopped kneeling. People like Les Ferdinand thinks the gesture should stop.

There is a whole industry built upon what you believe. People with paid positions whose employment is centred on pushing this rubbish.

I don't agree with your ideas of 'racial injustice' and I think what you support does more harm than good.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

But it hasn't has it. I can't decide if humans are evolving and this rank stupidity is part of the process or if we are just devolving into complete dumbasses.

I partly jest but attitudes towards 'foreigners' were always going to improve through exposure. This kind of token nonsense sets us against each other and backwards.

You are deluding yourself if you think that prejudice or antagonisms between different races will ever completely disappear. I think Britain is astonishingly tolerant considering the onslaught of immigration related issues it has had to endure.

Taking a knee is an imported militant act of defiance which has no place in football or this country.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Dec 2020 6.29pm)

This is very eloquently put and I think perfectly summarises how most feel about the situation.

I would be interested on DanH, Wisbechs and Forests thoughts on this.

There was also a time when football fans were associated with racism, still are apparently, how does that feel?