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Originally posted by PatrickA
So are the players disobeying Hodgson with this slow passing out from the back sideways and backwards? Good post. For me the players look directionless, they seem to lack any idea of what they are trying to achieve, particularly without Zaha. If, as you say, they are following Hodgson's instructions it is quite damning on him and highlights his organisational and motivational failings. If on the other hand they are rebelling and doing their own thing, he's lost the players, which is equally as damning.
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Good post. For me the players look directionless, they seem to lack any idea of what they are trying to achieve, particularly without Zaha. If, as you say, they are following Hodgson's instructions it is quite damning on him and highlights his organisational and motivational failings. If on the other hand they are rebelling and doing their own thing, he's lost the players, which is equally as damning. I don't think Mr Hodgson instructed Dann to make a complete mess of a routine clearance for Burnley's open goal, nor tell his players to offer no challenge whatsoever at a corner headed in from within the 6-yard box,nor tell PVA to fall on the floor leading up to Burnley's third goal. No manager is above criticism but Mr Hodgson has to work with an aged squad, many well past their best and whose desire might have diminished due to their contract situations.
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Originally posted by PatrickA
To use your terminology , Willo, with the utmost respect it does not seem you are looking at Hodgson objectively. Of course Mr Hodgson is the 'Lightning rod' but I have considered the 'Bigger picture'. After the last two abject performances there are those who have opined that he has "Lost the dressing room" but of course no such sentiments were expressed after the back-to-back wins against Wolves and Newcastle. Finally, in terms of "Seeing him through a prism...", perhaps my spectacles are out of focus and I need to go to Specsavers!!
Edited by Willo (16 Feb 2021 9.19am)
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I too am concerned about the 'Bigger Picture,' in particular if there is a possibility of Hodgson remaining at the helm next season
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I too am concerned about the 'Bigger Picture,' in particular if there is a possibility of Hodgson remaining at the helm next season The scenario could unfold whereby we survive in the PL yet again under Hodgson, he has no plans to retire and the 'Board' decide that a tried and trusted manager should continue with his experience vital at a time of evolution.
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In this we are most certainly agreed!
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Originally posted by slubglurge
The players look directionless because we only have one tactic which is give the ball to Wilf which has been the case for a long time now. When he is not there they literally dont know what to do. We also have no on the field leader. Jedinak would have been kicking their backsides all round Selhurst. He never left anything back in the changing room whereas our players at the moment seem to have left their whole bodies there. These are not school boys,. They are experienced pro,s. If there is a question of . “ I don’t know what to do next”. It can only reflect on their ability, and professionalism. As does their failure to cut out obvious personal mistakes.
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Originally posted by Putitout
These are not school boys,. They are experienced pro,s. If there is a question of . “ I don’t know what to do next”. It can only reflect on their ability, and professionalism. As does their failure to cut out obvious personal mistakes. I would add to that they are as a group struggling with the intensity of playing so many games in this condensed season. The injury list is the one table we are clear leaders in. As players age they become more susceptible to injury and we are seeing that now.
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I would add to that they are as a group struggling with the intensity of playing so many games in this condensed season. The injury list is the one table we are clear leaders in. As players age they become more susceptible to injury and we are seeing that now. I concur with these sentiments. I have opined a few times on HOL, earlier in the season, that our ageing squad could well be found wanting as the season unfolds for the reasons you have highlighted.
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I would add to that they are as a group struggling with the intensity of playing so many games in this condensed season. The injury list is the one table we are clear leaders in. As players age they become more susceptible to injury and we are seeing that now. Yes, certainly plays a big part in our performances reaching the kind of low witnessed Saturday . And another very good reason to reject the idea that all we need to do , is replace a manager , and all of these problems attendant to our struggles, will disappear .
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Originally posted by Putitout
Yes, certainly plays a big part in our performances reaching the kind of low witnessed Saturday . And another very good reason to reject the idea that all we need to do , is replace a manager , and all of these problems attendant to our struggles, will disappear . If you and I met over a tipple or two I believe we would be like a pair of 'Nodding donkeys' as we discuss our current plight.
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Originally posted by Willo
The scenario could unfold whereby we survive in the PL yet again under Hodgson, he has no plans to retire and the 'Board' decide that a tried and trusted manager should continue with his experience vital at a time of evolution. Evolving into what though?
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Evolving into what though? Evolution in terms of a player 'Revolving door'. Brighton wanted a change from Chris Hughton who admits himself he is not the most expansive coach.
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I would add to that they are as a group struggling with the intensity of playing so many games in this condensed season. The injury list is the one table we are clear leaders in. As players age they become more susceptible to injury and we are seeing that now. And yet Hodgson seemingly plays players into the ground rather than managing a squad through the season to avoid injuries through fatigue or due to age. Of course he bangs on about his best 11 and his reluctance to deviate from this. But if it's costing you avoidable injuries surely it warrants a different approach?
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