I thought the committee heard from Rafiq and then asked lots of questions all of which he answered. The former Chairs evidence particularly regarding the CEO wanting the investigation process culled, the ECB's involvement, Yorkshire leadership deciding not to participate. Rattled through quite quickly - the way I heard it anyway.

So you have no real opinions on the matter?

I listened to a lot of it and there is no doubt that Azeem Rafiq was bullied and that some of it was racist in language.
I suspect that the bullying - which I detest by the way - is no more than goes on in sports clubs and teams up and down the country.
Should it happen? - no of course not - but you will never stop it and it is part of a culture in high level team sports.
This went beyond that of course - particularly if the Moxon thing is true after the poor man returned to work having lost his child.
That is/was disgraceful but not racist as such - albeit other occurrences were.
I am not sure where this has to go now.
Lessons need learning and people need educating but should everyone mentioned lose their livelihoods over this?
Michael Vaughan may have said what he said but maybe it was with a huge smile on his face and not meant in a horrible way at all - should he suddenly be cancelled?
Seems like Ballance may have a problem and rightfully so but even Joe Root is likely to be asked a lot of questions now as well.
It has all got very personal but to me Yorkshire have acted very badly as have one or two individuals and they should rightly be punished.
I feel really sorry for the man because he has obviously suffered over many years and that is sad but they should use education to sort the mess out now and start afresh.

This player has a right to publicly say how be was treated. Stating that it's 'unimportant' because it doesn't tally with your vision of the country or preferred demographics is neither here nor there in the context of that. Clearly people don't deserve to be physically abused or repeatedly attacked for their racial or religious beliefs whatever they may be, and as that is his claimed experience then he has a right to voice it. Your attitude here appears to be that if not whites get 'uppity' about their experiences then they are all but deserved.

Over time it's become clear that the only racial reality you're happy with is some kind of subservient Uncle Tom nonsense where people are pleased to put up with crap and attacked if they don't. And this is your very latest iteration of that belief and theme. I don't agree with mass immigration either. I just tend to believe that people already here aren't free game to be demeaned and denigrated on account of a discomfort at their presence.

That said, the reaction to this is OTT. They should've just listened earlier as when that doesn't happen animosity grows and a determination to be heard usually wins out regardless.

Edited by BlueJay (16 Nov 2021 3.24pm)

Abuse of people in the workplace and elsewhere has gone on forever. Suddenly, we are all supposed to accept without question that race related antagonisms are somehow different from other personal abuse.

Why?

We need to look beyond the detail and see what is really happening in virtually every area of British life.

Useful idiots will be whining about racism, and meanwhile, yet another British institution is being slowly dismantled.

Yawn. More Dan personal stuff.

Have you lived in a fluffy bubble your whole life? Bullying is part of the human experience for many people.
This guy gets a parliamentary committee because he cries racism and played for Yorkshire.

Does everyone else who ever got called a nasty name get one too?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2021 3.53pm)