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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 16 Nov 21 7.19pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Dan thinks we should remove the status of people who kept slaves 200 years ago. It's all part of tearing down our institutions. The takeover that the Left said was a figment of Right Wing imaginations has begun in earnest. Imagine how it will be when we are a minority. Not long to wait now.

The details are not important.

And there we have it. Back to the far right trope which governs everything you post.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 21 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

And there we have it. Back to the far right trope which governs everything you post.

Trope?

Same old clichéd crap.

It's happening before your eyes, and people like you are helping it happen.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 16 Nov 21 7.25pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Rafiq is very emotional but I was not convinced, particularly as his testimony is uncorroborated and in front of politicians.

Have Moeen, Rashid, Mills etc. actually experienced this, if so then they would surely not be the valued team members they have always appeared over several years.

Society has moved on, in this case cricket appears lacking, but we are not talking skinheads and abuse of asian people as it undoubtedly was.

Most of the people I come across are asian and a comment like 'p**i' would be simply unthinkable, and has been for years.


 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Nov 21 7.39pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Rafiq is very emotional but I was not convinced, particularly as his testimony is uncorroborated and in front of politicians.

Have Moeen, Rashid, Mills etc. actually experienced this, if so then they would surely not be the valued team members they have always appeared over several years.

Society has moved on, in this case cricket appears lacking, but we are not talking skinheads and abuse of asian people as it undoubtedly was.

Most of the people I come across are asian and a comment like 'p**i' would be simply unthinkable, and has been for years.


Cricket creates its own dynamic because the players spend so much time together, far more than other sports, and doubtless cliques develop which makes bullying more likely. Not to excuse this behavior but it's possible the levels of joking and **** taking in such a closed environment went beyond acceptable levels.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 21 7.53pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Cricket creates its own dynamic because the players spend so much time together, far more than other sports, and doubtless cliques develop which makes bullying more likely. Not to excuse this behavior but it's possible the levels of joking and **** taking in such a closed environment went beyond acceptable levels.

All this sort of stuff is building site humour, which goes on everywhere.
It works fine when those involved understand and accept the context of the banter. It sounds to me like this guy was a willing participant in that environment and then suddenly decided to become offended years later when he could get some attention.

It also opens the door for Asians to flood in to English cricket and create yet another sport where White kids become an endangered species. Maybe that is the plan, and he is just the stalking horse.

 

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It is not correct to trash a former England Captain's reputation as has happened here.

Without actual proof then Vaughan is entitled to redress imo.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 16 Nov 21 8.11pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

More regurgitated Laurence Fox nonsense.

I quite like Laurence Fox I can't deny it.

Then again, I don't follow him so god knows what he thinks.

As for Rafiq....as Hitchens said, 'that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.' Don't get me wrong if some great wrong has been done I think it should be recognised but I highly doubt it has been....at least not to the extent that people's livelihoods need to be destroyed.

We don't live in rational times.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2021 8.13pm)

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

All this sort of stuff is building site humour, which goes on everywhere.
It works fine when those involved understand and accept the context of the banter. It sounds to me like this guy was a willing participant in that environment and then suddenly decided to become offended years later when he could get some attention.

It also opens the door for Asians to flood in to English cricket and create yet another sport where White kids become an endangered species. Maybe that is the plan, and he is just the stalking horse.


Wow, true to the racist core. Unbelievable? - No, totally expected. White kids simply aren't good enough. Why? Too much of an easy life and everything handed to them on a plate. Sure there are exceptions but certainly not for the majority.

Was it ok for the white British to 'flood' into India all those years ago?

Edited by Orange1290 (16 Nov 2021 8.23pm)

 


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Originally posted by Orange1290


Wow, true to the racist core. Unbelievable? - No, totally expected. White kids simply aren't good enough. Why? Too much if an easy life and everything handed to them on a plate. Sure there are exceptions but certainly not for the majority.

Was it ok for the white British to 'flood' into India?


Edited by Orange1290 (16 Nov 2021 8.22pm)

Oh delicious.

Was it ok for the newly independent India to kick out all the white British from India?....some of whom had families who'd been there for two generations.

The anti white guy who knows nothing about history.


Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2021 8.37pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Oh delicious.

Was it ok for the newly independent India to kick out all the white British from India?....some of whom had families who'd been there for two generations.

The anti white guy who knows nothing about history.


Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2021 8.37pm)

How can I be anti white when I'm white? See what I did there? - I made you look very stupid indeed. Still, you keep using two usernames, it doesn't hide your racism and xenophobia. The British were first to illegally go and colonise India. India didn't colonise 'GB'. Their 'kicking' out was truly justified and not a second to soon.

Edited by Orange1290 (16 Nov 2021 8.43pm)

 


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Originally posted by Orange1290

How can I be anti white when I'm white? See what I did there? - I made you look very stupid indeed. Still, you keep using two usernames, it doesn't hide your racism and xenophobia. The British colonised where first to illegally go and colonise India. Their 'kicking' out was truly justified.

So let's get this right, if you yourself are white, you can't be against white people? Don't you realise just how actually racist that statement is?

As for my identity spicy....Look, it's getting old....can't you just DM a mod...who have access to the IPs and find out that....just like the rest of your opinions you're about as accurate as a blind man with a sniper rifle.

Similarly to your understanding of colonization. Still, I note that you are happy with forced racial expulsion.....as long as it's white people.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2021 8.52pm)

 


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Originally posted by Orange1290

How can I be anti white when I'm white? See what I did there? - I made you look very stupid indeed. Still, you keep using two usernames, it doesn't hide your racism and xenophobia. The British were first to illegally go and colonise India. India didn't colonise 'GB'. Their 'kicking' out was truly justified and not a second to soon.

Edited by Orange1290 (16 Nov 2021 8.43pm)

There were never that many white people in India. Britain used to rule through local power, or local forces in the main. At the height,as a guess maybe 250,000 people, maybe more, but still not many white British. The final part of India being in the Empire 'The Raj' had maybe 20 odd thousand white British administrators,soldiers and family. Hitler used to rage to his generals in the conquered territories about it.
As for first, we'd have to go a long way back and know a lot more history. Off the top of my head, The Mughals spring to mind - building the Taj Mahal (around 1500). But something's telling me there were a couple before then. Obviously not an expert on this and I guess people can always look it up.

 


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