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dannyboy1978 07 Jun 19 9.19am
Originally posted by Badger11 It raises an interesting point about employees involving themselves in politics. The bank I worked for would have sacked me as you are not allowed to engage in that sort of activity and her behaviour reflected badly on the NHS. That was a corporate decision that most government / local councils would not agree with but is fairly common in the private sector. The problem is that if a teacher is caught at an Far Right demonstration the left would be screaming for them to be sacked. It doesn't seem to apply the other way around though. On balance I think she had to go it wasn't going on the march but her appalling and aggressive behaviour and she was stupid enough to get caught on camera the biggest crime of all. Oh and she had a very odd social media page which the media have trawled through. I hope she isn't out of work for long and realises her foolishness. Edited by Badger11 (07 Jun 2019 9.07am) I hope she is out of work for a long time and reflects how wrong she is, she has no sympathy for centre right people she classes as nazi's

dannyboy1978

07 Jun 19 9.19am

Originally posted by Badger11

It raises an interesting point about employees involving themselves in politics.

The bank I worked for would have sacked me as you are not allowed to engage in that sort of activity and her behaviour reflected badly on the NHS.

That was a corporate decision that most government / local councils would not agree with but is fairly common in the private sector. The problem is that if a teacher is caught at an Far Right demonstration the left would be screaming for them to be sacked. It doesn't seem to apply the other way around though.

On balance I think she had to go it wasn't going on the march but her appalling and aggressive behaviour and she was stupid enough to get caught on camera the biggest crime of all. Oh and she had a very odd social media page which the media have trawled through.

I hope she isn't out of work for long and realises her foolishness.

Edited by Badger11 (07 Jun 2019 9.07am)

I hope she is out of work for a long time and reflects how wrong she is, she has no sympathy for centre right people she classes as nazi's

Badger11 Beckenham 07 Jun 19 9.23am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 I hope she is out of work for a long time and reflects how wrong she is, she has no sympathy for centre right people she classes as nazi's Deep breath Dannyboy we have to show we are better than them. Edited by Badger11 (07 Jun 2019 9.24am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 07 Jun 19 9.23am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

I hope she is out of work for a long time and reflects how wrong she is, she has no sympathy for centre right people she classes as nazi's

Deep breath Dannyboy we have to show we are better than them.

Edited by Badger11 (07 Jun 2019 9.24am)

One more point

Teddy Eagle 07 Jun 19 9.24am
Originally posted by Badger11 It raises an interesting point about employees involving themselves in politics. The bank I worked for would have sacked me as you are not allowed to engage in that sort of activity and her behaviour reflected badly on the NHS. That was a corporate decision that most government / local councils would not agree with but is fairly common in the private sector. The problem is that if a teacher is caught at an Far Right demonstration the left would be screaming for them to be sacked. It doesn't seem to apply the other way around though. On balance I think she had to go it wasn't going on the march but her appalling and aggressive behaviour and she was stupid enough to get caught on camera the biggest crime of all. Oh and she had a very odd social media page which the media have trawled through. I hope she isn't out of work for long and realises her foolishness. Edited by Badger11 (07 Jun 2019 9.07am) I feel quite conflicted over this. I don’t like the idea of someone losing a job but there should be some consequences. Maybe a compulsory appearance on one of Ant Middleton’s sweary programmes.

Teddy Eagle

07 Jun 19 9.24am

Originally posted by Badger11

It raises an interesting point about employees involving themselves in politics.

The bank I worked for would have sacked me as you are not allowed to engage in that sort of activity and her behaviour reflected badly on the NHS.

I hope she isn't out of work for long and realises her foolishness.

Edited by Badger11 (07 Jun 2019 9.07am)

I feel quite conflicted over this. I don’t like the idea of someone losing a job but there should be some consequences.
Maybe a compulsory appearance on one of Ant Middleton’s sweary programmes.

Midlands Eagle 07 Jun 19 9.36am
I can't take Trump seriously as I lived in Newcastle Upon Tyne for several years where trump is a commonly used term for fart. President Fart

Midlands Eagle

07 Jun 19 9.36am

I can't take Trump seriously as I lived in Newcastle Upon Tyne for several years where trump is a commonly used term for fart.

President Fart

Badger11 Beckenham 07 Jun 19 9.58am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle I feel quite conflicted over this. I don’t like the idea of someone losing a job but there should be some consequences. Maybe a compulsory appearance on one of Ant Middleton’s sweary programmes. I agree I think she just got caught up in the moment but she got caught. It's funny that most private companies have policies about employee involvement in politics as they are terrified as being seen as politically bias. Meanwhile in the public sector its perfectly normal for staff to be involved. My guess is that someone told her to resign rather than face the sack. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 07 Jun 19 9.58am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I feel quite conflicted over this. I don’t like the idea of someone losing a job but there should be some consequences.
Maybe a compulsory appearance on one of Ant Middleton’s sweary programmes.

I agree I think she just got caught up in the moment but she got caught. It's funny that most private companies have policies about employee involvement in politics as they are terrified as being seen as politically bias. Meanwhile in the public sector its perfectly normal for staff to be involved.

My guess is that someone told her to resign rather than face the sack.

One more point

DanH SW2 07 Jun 19 9.59am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I can't take Trump seriously as I lived in Newcastle Upon Tyne for several years where trump is a commonly used term for fart. President Fart Vince Cable is borderline too.

DanH

SW2 07 Jun 19 9.59am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I can't take Trump seriously as I lived in Newcastle Upon Tyne for several years where trump is a commonly used term for fart.

President Fart

Vince Cable is borderline too.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 07 Jun 19 11.29am
To be fair, the article says she quit her job (not sacked). Again, these abusive, violent protesters all seem to come from the same side of politics. You have grown adults screaming into people's faces. What is wrong with these people? Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Jun 2019 11.30am)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 07 Jun 19 11.29am

To be fair, the article says she quit her job (not sacked).

Again, these abusive, violent protesters all seem to come from the same side of politics. You have grown adults screaming into people's faces. What is wrong with these people?

Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Jun 2019 11.30am)

Hrolf The Ganger 07 Jun 19 11.45am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle To be fair, the article says she quit her job (not sacked). Again, these abusive, violent protesters all seem to come from the same side of politics. You have grown adults screaming into people's faces. What is wrong with these people? Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Jun 2019 11.30am) This is all about their own issues. Most of these people secretly hate themselves.

Hrolf The Ganger

07 Jun 19 11.45am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

To be fair, the article says she quit her job (not sacked).

Again, these abusive, violent protesters all seem to come from the same side of politics. You have grown adults screaming into people's faces. What is wrong with these people?

Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Jun 2019 11.30am)

This is all about their own issues. Most of these people secretly hate themselves.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 07 Jun 19 12.03pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This is all about their own issues. Most of these people secretly hate themselves. Paul Joseph Watson sums them up well 'Why Do They Always Look Like This?' [Link]

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 07 Jun 19 12.03pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is all about their own issues. Most of these people secretly hate themselves.

Paul Joseph Watson sums them up well

'Why Do They Always Look Like This?' [Link]

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 19 12.06pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle To be fair, the article says she quit her job (not sacked). Again, these abusive, violent protesters all seem to come from the same side of politics. You have grown adults screaming into people's faces. What is wrong with these people? Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Jun 2019 11.30am) Some of them have mental health issues, others have been brainwashed into thinking they are dealing with neo Nazis by people eager to distort and peddle narratives that promote that. The intelligent ones just believe in a worldview that I don't agree with but are prepared to protest peacefully. Those are the ones worthy of some respect. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 19 12.06pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

To be fair, the article says she quit her job (not sacked).

Again, these abusive, violent protesters all seem to come from the same side of politics. You have grown adults screaming into people's faces. What is wrong with these people?

Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Jun 2019 11.30am)

Some of them have mental health issues, others have been brainwashed into thinking they are dealing with neo Nazis by people eager to distort and peddle narratives that promote that.

The intelligent ones just believe in a worldview that I don't agree with but are prepared to protest peacefully. Those are the ones worthy of some respect.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

samprior Hamburg 07 Jun 19 12.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Some of them have mental health issues, others have been brainwashed into thinking they are dealing with neo Nazis by people eager to distort and peddle narratives that promote that. The intelligent ones just believe in a worldview that I don't agree with but are prepared to protest peacefully. Those are the ones worthy of some respect. And I guess if you swap the 'Nazis' part with... circle where appropriate 'lefties', 'hippies', 'Communists' etc you'll have summed up the other side too. Very succinct, nice work.

samprior

Hamburg 07 Jun 19 12.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Some of them have mental health issues, others have been brainwashed into thinking they are dealing with neo Nazis by people eager to distort and peddle narratives that promote that.

The intelligent ones just believe in a worldview that I don't agree with but are prepared to protest peacefully. Those are the ones worthy of some respect.

And I guess if you swap the 'Nazis' part with... circle where appropriate 'lefties', 'hippies', 'Communists' etc you'll have summed up the other side too. Very succinct, nice work.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 07 Jun 19 12.32pm
On her Twitter profile, that protester describes herself as an "Intersectional Feminist, LGBT+, accused crazy cat lady, body positive, striving for equality." She runs a private company which provides 'clinical services' to the NHS. But she was protesting against Trump and a potential US trade deal that could lead to privatisation of the NHS!

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 07 Jun 19 12.32pm

On her Twitter profile, that protester describes herself as an "Intersectional Feminist, LGBT+, accused crazy cat lady, body positive, striving for equality."

She runs a private company which provides 'clinical services' to the NHS. But she was protesting against Trump and a potential US trade deal that could lead to privatisation of the NHS!

Penge Eagle Beckenham 07 Jun 19 12.36pm
Originally posted by samprior And I guess if you swap the 'Nazis' part with... circle where appropriate 'lefties', 'hippies', 'Communists' etc you'll have summed up the other side too. Very succinct, nice work. I don't think the issue is with name calling itself – but disingenuously getting the names totally wrong. We don't have any Nazi politicians in the UK, while there are open Marxists in the Labour party.

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 07 Jun 19 12.36pm

Originally posted by samprior

And I guess if you swap the 'Nazis' part with... circle where appropriate 'lefties', 'hippies', 'Communists' etc you'll have summed up the other side too. Very succinct, nice work.

I don't think the issue is with name calling itself – but disingenuously getting the names totally wrong. We don't have any Nazi politicians in the UK, while there are open Marxists in the Labour party.

samprior Hamburg 07 Jun 19 12.46pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle I don't think the issue is with name calling itself – but disingenuously getting the names totally wrong. We don't have any Nazi politicians in the UK, while there are open Marxists in the Labour party. True...and thank god for that. I guess if I was to put it on a spectrum though the flipside of an open Marxist would be a rampant capitalist. And there could well be a few UK politicians fitting that title.

samprior

Hamburg 07 Jun 19 12.46pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

True...and thank god for that.

I guess if I was to put it on a spectrum though the flipside of an open Marxist would be a rampant capitalist. And there could well be a few UK politicians fitting that title.

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 19 1.00pm
Originally posted by samprior And I guess if you swap the 'Nazis' part with... circle where appropriate 'lefties', 'hippies', 'Communists' etc you'll have summed up the other side too. Very succinct, nice work. Calling someone a lefty or hippy or indeed even a communist isn't going to result in them being sacked or screamed at in the street by mentally unwell people. So I'm struggling to see your point. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 19 1.00pm

Originally posted by samprior

And I guess if you swap the 'Nazis' part with... circle where appropriate 'lefties', 'hippies', 'Communists' etc you'll have summed up the other side too. Very succinct, nice work.

Calling someone a lefty or hippy or indeed even a communist isn't going to result in them being sacked or screamed at in the street by mentally unwell people.

So I'm struggling to see your point.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 19 1.02pm
Originally posted by samprior True...and thank god for that. I guess if I was to put it on a spectrum though the flipside of an open Marxist would be a rampant capitalist. And there could well be a few UK politicians fitting that title. Hopefully the vast majority of them, seeing as we are living in a capitalistic society. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 19 1.02pm

Originally posted by samprior

True...and thank god for that.

I guess if I was to put it on a spectrum though the flipside of an open Marxist would be a rampant capitalist. And there could well be a few UK politicians fitting that title.

Hopefully the vast majority of them, seeing as we are living in a capitalistic society.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Badger11 Beckenham 07 Jun 19 1.05pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Paul Joseph Watson sums them up well 'Why Do They Always Look Like This?' [Link] Very true these is that sorta look they have. I guess you could say the same thing about the far right as well, a different look but one you can spot. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 07 Jun 19 1.05pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Paul Joseph Watson sums them up well

'Why Do They Always Look Like This?' [Link]

Very true these is that sorta look they have. I guess you could say the same thing about the far right as well, a different look but one you can spot.

One more point

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 19 1.07pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Very true these is that sorta look they have. I guess you could say the same thing about the far right as well, a different look but one you can spot. What would you say is a 'far right' look? Is it the 'gammon' thing? Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2019 1.14pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 19 1.07pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Very true these is that sorta look they have. I guess you could say the same thing about the far right as well, a different look but one you can spot.

What would you say is a 'far right' look?

Is it the 'gammon' thing?

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2019 1.14pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 07 Jun 19 1.26pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Paul Joseph Watson sums them up well 'Why Do They Always Look Like This?' [Link] I think it's sad that our brave new world creates people like these. They lash out because they are losers in life and socially inadequate.

Hrolf The Ganger

07 Jun 19 1.26pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Paul Joseph Watson sums them up well

'Why Do They Always Look Like This?' [Link]

I think it's sad that our brave new world creates people like these.
They lash out because they are losers in life and socially inadequate.

Hrolf The Ganger 07 Jun 19 1.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What would you say is a 'far right' look? Is it the 'gammon' thing? Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2019 1.14pm) I think extremists are fairly similar on all sides. The difference being that Leftist extremism has somehow become acceptable. I blame Hitler.

Hrolf The Ganger

07 Jun 19 1.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What would you say is a 'far right' look?

Is it the 'gammon' thing?

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2019 1.14pm)

I think extremists are fairly similar on all sides. The difference being that Leftist extremism has somehow become acceptable.

I blame Hitler.

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