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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The BBC is not just a “public service organisation” though, is it? It’s very much more than that. It’s a unique window into the UK and a bastion of freedom from government control of the information that the public sees. It is not anti Trump, anti Brexit or anti anything else. It is pro truth and pro objectivity. That in being so means some people find their own biases challenged is just the way it is. Teddy no more put out any facts than you did. You both repeated populist innuendo and assertions. I am sorry if you believe that means I am treating you with contempt. I am not. I just think you are wrong. Welcome to the party by the way. Contempt is a common reaction to my comments. My innuendos and assertions came from the texts of the government inquiries. Which stated that many BBC employees knew exactly what was going on. You've clearly been bested in an argument about your pet BBC and can't take it. Get off your horse.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
My innuendos and assertions came from the texts of the government inquiries. Which stated that many BBC employees knew exactly what was going on. You've clearly been bested in an argument about your pet BBC and can't take it. Get off your horse. The 117 BBC employees who were witnesses at the enquiry said they knew about his activities.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The 117 BBC employees who were witnesses at the enquiry said they knew about his activities. I know, but obviously they were Brexiteers.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I know, but obviously they were Brexiteers. Ah, loathsome spotted reptiles with nary a redeeming feature. Execrable wretches and destroyers of hopes and dreams whose names will echo through the halls of infamy for all eternity.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Ah, loathsome spotted reptiles with nary a redeeming feature. Execrable wretches and destroyers of hopes and dreams whose names will echo through the halls of infamy for all eternity. Blimey, this puts Willo's narratives to shame . . .
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Blimey, this puts Willo's narratives to shame . . . Compared to Willo's urbane piloting of locomotives of loquacity through somnambulant hamlets of jejunity I am but a humble toiler in the foothills of prolixity.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Compared to Willo's urbane piloting of locomotives of loquacity through somnambulant hamlets of jejunity I am but a humble toiler in the foothills of prolixity. He’s goner av you
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Originally posted by cryrst
He’s goner av you I'm relying on him being too busy researching Rothmans yearbooks to be paying any attention.
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
According to an Italian judge this week, if it lasts less than 10 seconds it doesn't count as a grope. I imagine that a few Italian males' eyes lit up at that My anecdote about a middle aged lady groping me during a Gary Numan gig is now invalid then, as I would estimate I lasted a maximum of 6 seconds.
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Originally posted by Part Time James
My anecdote about a middle aged lady groping me during a Gary Numan gig is now invalid then, as I would estimate I lasted a maximum of 6 seconds. How many of those 6 seconds was spent finding the 'target'?
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Originally posted by georgenorman
We had a nice rest from you for a couple of weeks, with much calmer and reasonable debate. Now your volume of posts and bombast are back to pre-lockout levels. I expect you will reach a point where you start answering your own posts. The rest was welcomed by me. So much so Ii extended it by a week whilst still observing. It might have been calmer, when people are massaging egos it tends to be calm, but reasonable it wasn’t. The bias and prejudices were every bit as evident as when I post too. Perhaps you haven’t noticed but I only posting in this thread, simply because the integrity of the BBC and its importance is something close to my heart and I find the kind of attacks indulged in here to be both distasteful and ignorant.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Depends if you understood them. Viz, Johnny Rotten wanting to kill people in films or real life. I got what he meant but the claim made in the headline and supported by you simply wasn’t by what he actually said or what the BBC did. He didn’t “out” Savile. He, like others, voiced concerns and disliked him. As, by the way, so did I. The BBC did remove him but not because of anything he said about Savile. He was pretty OTT himself and was deliberately controversial. They acted for those reasons.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I got what he meant but the claim made in the headline and supported by you simply wasn’t by what he actually said or what the BBC did. He didn’t “out” Savile. He, like others, voiced concerns and disliked him. As, by the way, so did I. The BBC did remove him but not because of anything he said about Savile. He was pretty OTT himself and was deliberately controversial. They acted for those reasons. His voicing of concerns obviously shows he'd heard about Savile's activities. If he'd heard what are the chances of the BBC not having done so?
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Originally posted by Badger11
2011? A bit out of date. Survey's are always a bit dodgy and can be skewed as I said previously a better barometer is the real world attitude to the licence fee. Currently more than 20m of us pay it because we more or less have to. However that number is falling year on year largely due to demographics, lack of interest and the cost of living crisis rather than any defund the BBC campaign. Perhaps in a few years non payment and the admin cost of collecting it will become a bigger issue which is why the BBC is so keen to replace the licence fee with some form of broadband tax (like VAT) and have someone else collect it. Edited by Badger11 (14 Jul 2023 9.18am) Edited by Badger11 (14 Jul 2023 9.19am) So how do you establish a “world attitude “ unless you survey? You just have a mess of conflicting opinions. I don’t have a problem with replacing the licence fee with another way of funding. So long as we all pay and it keeps the BBC independent of government. Why should we all pay? Because we all benefit, whether we use it or not.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
His voicing of concerns obviously shows he'd heard about Savile's activities. If he'd heard what are the chances of the BBC not having done so? Heard or just felt him to be creepy? That’s what most felt. As I did. This was at a time when parents were actively pushing their children towards him in the hope of getting noticed. There simply wasn’t the same awareness there is now.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Heard or just felt him to be creepy? That’s what most felt. As I did. This was at a time when parents were actively pushing their children towards him in the hope of getting noticed. There simply wasn’t the same awareness there is now. Maybe he'd heard from one of the 100+ witnesses at the enquiry.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The rest was welcomed by me. So much so Ii extended it by a week whilst still observing. It might have been calmer, when people are massaging egos it tends to be calm, but reasonable it wasn’t. The bias and prejudices were every bit as evident as when I post too. Perhaps you haven’t noticed but I only posting in this thread, simply because the integrity of the BBC and its importance is something close to my heart and I find the kind of attacks indulged in here to be both distasteful and ignorant. You seem to find any opinion that you don't agree with as distasteful and ignorant and half the time you seem to attack any opinion just for the sake of it - it's all very odd.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So how do you establish a “world attitude “ unless you survey? You just have a mess of conflicting opinions. I don’t have a problem with replacing the licence fee with another way of funding. So long as we all pay and it keeps the BBC independent of government. Why should we all pay? Because we all benefit, whether we use it or not. Ok I'll ask AGAIN how do I benefit from the BBC?
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You seem to find any opinion that you don't agree with as distasteful and ignorant and half the time you seem to attack any opinion just for the sake of it - it's all very odd. Obviously not much going on in Truro to fill the days, so trolling helps while away the hours
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Originally posted by Part Time James
My anecdote about a middle aged lady groping me during a Gary Numan gig is now invalid then, as I would estimate I lasted a maximum of 6 seconds. I’ve got to admire your stamina. A sniff of Chanel and it’s wipe up time
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