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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Jun 17 4.54pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No the communist party has never been in power So you will be voting Labour this time now your party are fully behind it... and inside it.

Hrolf The Ganger

02 Jun 17 4.54pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No the communist party has never been in power

So you will be voting Labour this time now your party are fully behind it... and inside it.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 4.56pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger [Link] Try this one for starters. If they lost all those beds , have they thought about looking down the scrap merchants. If someone stole them that'd be the first place I'd check.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 4.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

[Link]

Try this one for starters.

If they lost all those beds , have they thought about looking down the scrap merchants. If someone stole them that'd be the first place I'd check.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 4.59pm
Originally posted by legaleagle and it could be thought by some that even a venerable cucking funt could be capable of being wrong twice a day sometimes.. Edited by legaleagle (02 Jun 2017 4.50pm) Hmmm. You'd have to go some way back before you found anything I posted where I was wrong, Rumpole. I feel you're deliberately wasting the court's time. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 4.59pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

and it could be thought by some that even a venerable cucking funt could be capable of being wrong twice a day sometimes..

Edited by legaleagle (02 Jun 2017 4.50pm)

Hmmm. You'd have to go some way back before you found anything I posted where I was wrong, Rumpole. I feel you're deliberately wasting the court's time.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Hrolf The Ganger 02 Jun 17 5.00pm
Originally posted by nickgusset If they lost all those beds , have they thought about looking down the scrap merchants. If someone stole them that'd be the first place I'd check. I wouldn't expect you or your party to really take the NHS seriously. It's just an electioneering football for you isn't it. And that is ironic since Labour are largely responsible for the mess it is in now. [Link]

Hrolf The Ganger

02 Jun 17 5.00pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

If they lost all those beds , have they thought about looking down the scrap merchants. If someone stole them that'd be the first place I'd check.

I wouldn't expect you or your party to really take the NHS seriously.
It's just an electioneering football for you isn't it.
And that is ironic since Labour are largely responsible for the mess it is in now.

[Link]

steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.00pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger [Link] Try this one for starters. I get it the beds were too high so they had to be lowered.

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

[Link]

Try this one for starters.

I get it the beds were too high so they had to be lowered.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.06pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Just to point out we were never 'given' money under the Marshall Plan. It was a loan subject to 50 annual repayments. The Marshall plan was pan European, mainly used to keep European countries under American not Soviet influence.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.06pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Just to point out we were never 'given' money under the Marshall Plan. It was a loan subject to 50 annual repayments.

The Marshall plan was pan European, mainly used to keep European countries under American not Soviet influence.

Hrolf The Ganger 02 Jun 17 5.10pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 I get it the beds were too high so they had to be lowered. You are arguing that there were too many beds under the Tories so Labour had to reduce them? Cucking was right.

Hrolf The Ganger

02 Jun 17 5.10pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

I get it the beds were too high so they had to be lowered.

You are arguing that there were too many beds under the Tories so Labour had to reduce them?

Cucking was right.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.10pm
Originally posted by nickgusset The Marshall plan was pan European, mainly used to keep European countries under American not Soviet influence. And to rebuild economies to give the Americans someone to trade with. Whatever the reasons, Europe would have been fcked without it. Clever Americans. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham*

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.10pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

The Marshall plan was pan European, mainly used to keep European countries under American not Soviet influence.

And to rebuild economies to give the Americans someone to trade with. Whatever the reasons, Europe would have been f*cked without it. Clever Americans.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 02 Jun 17 5.12pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger [Link] Try this one for starters. Irony alert: Andrew Lansley, the shadow health secretary, said the Government's financial mismanagement had forced hospitals to make cuts which could risk lives. "These bed cuts were financially driven: the sharp rise in the numbers closed happened at a time when the health service was under desperate pressure to clear a massive deficit." NHS deficits are at record levels now having been cut to the bone since 2010. What this article doesn't address is what impact this actually had on health outcomes. What's certainly the case now is that the NHS needs significant investment. We have far lower doctor ratios than most other OECD countries, declining nurse numbers and more and more demand. The % of GDP spent on health is also very low in international terms. If you were to fall ill you'd be well advised to hop on the Eurostar to Paris where you will received much better healthcare (I speak from personal experience). France has more doctors, more nurses and more investment.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 02 Jun 17 5.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

[Link]

Try this one for starters.

Irony alert: Andrew Lansley, the shadow health secretary, said the Government's financial mismanagement had forced hospitals to make cuts which could risk lives. "These bed cuts were financially driven: the sharp rise in the numbers closed happened at a time when the health service was under desperate pressure to clear a massive deficit."

NHS deficits are at record levels now having been cut to the bone since 2010.

What this article doesn't address is what impact this actually had on health outcomes.

What's certainly the case now is that the NHS needs significant investment. We have far lower doctor ratios than most other OECD countries, declining nurse numbers and more and more demand. The % of GDP spent on health is also very low in international terms. If you were to fall ill you'd be well advised to hop on the Eurostar to Paris where you will received much better healthcare (I speak from personal experience). France has more doctors, more nurses and more investment.

steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.12pm
Originally posted by nickgusset The Marshall plan was pan European, mainly used to keep European countries under American not Soviet influence. In case of confusion there were 2 the North America loan and later the Marshall plan. Gordon Brown paid it up in 2006. Labour chancellors try to repay debt as we know

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.12pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

The Marshall plan was pan European, mainly used to keep European countries under American not Soviet influence.

In case of confusion there were 2 the North America loan and later the Marshall plan.

Gordon Brown paid it up in 2006.

Labour chancellors try to repay debt as we know

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.13pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I wouldn't expect you or your party to really take the NHS seriously. It's just an electioneering football for you isn't it. And that is ironic since Labour are largely responsible for the mess it is in now. [Link] All in this book. Most problems have been over exacerbated by the Tories, many Tory MPs have vested interests in Private heathcare. What I don't understand is you talk about what labour did, then how Corbyn more often than not voted against the party whip yet use what labour have done to whip Corbyn with when he was more likely voting against it! You can't have it both ways. Also. Lots of name calling on here by various tossers. Is it necessary? Attachment: 14964196497842075745551.jpg (5,987.32Kb)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

[Link]

All in this book. Most problems have been over exacerbated by the Tories, many Tory MPs have vested interests in Private heathcare.

What I don't understand is you talk about what labour did, then how Corbyn more often than not voted against the party whip yet use what labour have done to whip Corbyn with when he was more likely voting against it!

You can't have it both ways.

Also. Lots of name calling on here by various tossers. Is it necessary?

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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.15pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You are arguing that there were too many beds under the Tories so Labour had to reduce them? Cucking was right. No the nurses were finding it too difficult to get capitalist fatties into bed so the beds had to be lowered to make it easier.

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.15pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are arguing that there were too many beds under the Tories so Labour had to reduce them?

Cucking was right.

No the nurses were finding it too difficult to get capitalist fatties into bed so the beds had to be lowered to make it easier.

hedgehog50 Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.18pm
Is steeleye off his medication? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.18pm

Is steeleye off his medication?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.19pm
Originally posted by nickgusset All in this book. Most problems have been over exacerbated by the Tories, many Tory MPs have vested interests in Private heathcare. What I don't understand is you talk about what labour did, then how Corbyn more often than not voted against the party whip yet use what labour have done to whip Corbyn with when he was more likely voting against it! You can't have it both ways. Also. Lots of name calling on here by various tossers. Is it necessary? In this instance, yes. Absolutely. I've not called you any names other than 'gusset', gusset. And even then, that was only when I was cross with you. I actually believe that you are an integral part of this site. A challenging opponent. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.19pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

All in this book. Most problems have been over exacerbated by the Tories, many Tory MPs have vested interests in Private heathcare.

You can't have it both ways.

Also. Lots of name calling on here by various tossers. Is it necessary?

In this instance, yes. Absolutely. I've not called you any names other than 'gusset', gusset. And even then, that was only when I was cross with you. I actually believe that you are an integral part of this site. A challenging opponent.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 02 Jun 17 5.23pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I wouldn't expect you or your party to really take the NHS seriously. It's just an electioneering football for you isn't it. And that is ironic since Labour are largely responsible for the mess it is in now. [Link] In terms of pure data public spending on health the facts are: 1997: 4.73% of GDP 2009: 7.77% of GDP (peak - 2010 was 7.70%) 2015 (latest year available): 7.62% of GDP Make of that what you will. Pure data though can be misleading. Also number of doctors per 1000 population: 1997: 1.85 2009: 2.65 2015: 2.80 Nurses per 1000: 2000 (earliest available): 9.01 2009: 9.75 2014 (latest available): 8.19 Source: OECD

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 02 Jun 17 5.23pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

[Link]

In terms of pure data public spending on health the facts are:

1997: 4.73% of GDP
2009: 7.77% of GDP (peak - 2010 was 7.70%)
2015 (latest year available): 7.62% of GDP

Make of that what you will. Pure data though can be misleading.

Also number of doctors per 1000 population:

1997: 1.85
2009: 2.65
2015: 2.80

Nurses per 1000:

2000 (earliest available): 9.01
2009: 9.75
2014 (latest available): 8.19

Source: OECD

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.26pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt In this instance, yes. Absolutely. I've not called you any names other than 'gusset', gusset. And even then, that was only when I was cross with you. I actually believe that you are an integral part of this site. A challenging opponent. The ire hasn't really been aimed at me today, just scanning through what I've missed and seen lots of f***ing idiot type responses.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.26pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

The ire hasn't really been aimed at me today, just scanning through what I've missed and seen lots of f***ing idiot type responses.

steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.26pm
Tory attack ad misrepresents Corbyn views on IRA, says Labour. Widely shared video uses misleading edit of Corbyn’s interview on Sky News, cut to suggest he did not condemn bombing. Looks like its true and the part where Corbyn condemns all bombing is removed.

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.26pm

Tory attack ad misrepresents Corbyn views on IRA, says Labour.

Widely shared video uses misleading edit of Corbyn’s interview on Sky News, cut to suggest he did not condemn bombing.

Looks like its true and the part where Corbyn condemns all bombing is removed.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.28pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Tory attack ad misrepresents Corbyn views on IRA, says Labour. Widely shared video uses misleading edit of Corbyn’s interview on Sky News, cut to suggest he did not condemn bombing. Looks like its true and the part where Corbyn condemns all bombing is removed. I saw that. Needs to be headline news.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.28pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tory attack ad misrepresents Corbyn views on IRA, says Labour.

Widely shared video uses misleading edit of Corbyn’s interview on Sky News, cut to suggest he did not condemn bombing.

Looks like its true and the part where Corbyn condemns all bombing is removed.

I saw that. Needs to be headline news.

steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.34pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Jeremy not one to complain but this will have been circulated everywhere. Will it be traced directly to Tory HQ ??

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.34pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Jeremy not one to complain but this will have been circulated everywhere.

Will it be traced directly to Tory HQ ??

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.35pm
It's the NHS itself that needs reforming, no matter how much money taxpayers chuck at it. How much does a staff nurse or a junior doctor earn? Not as much as one of these w@nkers, I'll be bound. Attachment: IMG_20170602_173119.jpg (49.10Kb) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.35pm

It's the NHS itself that needs reforming, no matter how much money taxpayers chuck at it. How much does a staff nurse or a junior doctor earn? Not as much as one of these w@nkers, I'll be bound.

Attachment: IMG_20170602_173119.jpg (49.10Kb)

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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