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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 23 2.47pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

HOW?

By being threatened with legal action when you don't want to pay an unwarranted tax. And by being told that your views on things are outdated and, frankly, wrong.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 23 2.48pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

It's this kind of attitude which will ensure that the numbers of those paying the licence fee will diminish drastically. Shame, The BBC have had their chances, yet are as entrenched as ever. The BBC is a bit like watching the decline of an actor/actress until they end up on Last of the Summer Wine. Their remaining years on this earth to be counted on their fingers.

No. If the numbers paying continue to fall then a new, universal, funding model will be found. One that cannot be avoided. Almost everyone pays taxes to pay for universally beneficial services. The BBC is no different.

The right will hate it. I won’t.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 23 2.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No. If the numbers paying continue to fall then a new, universal, funding model will be found. One that cannot be avoided. Almost everyone pays taxes to pay for universally beneficial services. The BBC is no different.

The right will hate it. I won’t.

I expect your probably right. Personally, would like a subscription model and wage caps for employees.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 15 Jul 23 2.53pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It’s not me that says it though is it?

It’s the report that says it. Despite the persistent claims to the contrary.

Those claiming later to have known must have those claims treated with caution. All that is relevant is whether anyone reported suspicions to management at the time, whether employees, parents or the abused. It appears that this didn’t happen in any way to cause any kind of investigation to be undertaken.

That this now seems both incredible and unacceptable is true and the strongest of reasons for the procedures to be improved.

You think Teddy’s head hurts? Imagine mine with the level of obdurate misunderstanding of the actual facts involved.

The persistent repetition of lies often results in people thinking them to be true. Certain tabloids do this all the time and I suspect it’s in play here.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (15 Jul 2023 2.31pm)

It's certainly true of many of your posts.

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 23 2.53pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

By being threatened with legal action when you don't want to pay an unwarranted tax. And by being told that your views on things are outdated and, frankly, wrong.

I will have to go & thrash myself with a branch of thorns

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 23 2.55pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

I will have to go & thrash myself with a branch of thorns

The usual Saturday night it is then

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 23 2.57pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

By being threatened with legal action when you don't want to pay an unwarranted tax. And by being told that your views on things are outdated and, frankly, wrong.

No, it will be bundled with something you cannot do without.

The most obvious being the charge for broadband. It would no longer be directly associated with the BBC and described as an electronic media levy, or similar although the bulk of it would end up funding the BBC. Probably introduced in stages, with the licence fee gradually reduced to zero.

Just a suggestion!

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 23 3.04pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

The usual Saturday night it is then

Unfortunetly not, its my anniversary today, so, out the Q?

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 23 3.51pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Unfortunetly not, its my anniversary today, so, out the Q?

Happy Anniversary Eagleman - enjoy.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 23 3.57pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Happy Anniversary Eagleman - enjoy.

Thank you

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Jul 23 4.02pm

The BBC can be funded by subscription. Many other services are, and they are successful.
The BBC has morphed over time from a once world-beating news outlet, and pioneering TV maker, into a massively over-resourced entity that its overpaid employees benefit very well from the current financing system.
Cheap sports, CGI kids programmes, reality TV, cooking shows all pander to the lowest common denominator. Let them pay for it through subscription, because I see no benefit to those that don't use it.
Jingoistic Falklands war coverage by Brian "I counted them all out, I counted them all back" Hanrahan ? Our Navy suffered massively with Exocet missiles provided by France, but the BBC never publicised just how close the UK to losing that war/conflict.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 23 4.06pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The BBC can be funded by subscription. Many other services are, and they are successful.
The BBC has morphed over time from a once world-beating news outlet, and pioneering TV maker, into a massively over-resourced entity that its overpaid employees benefit very well from the current financing system.
Cheap sports, CGI kids programmes, reality TV, cooking shows all pander to the lowest common denominator. Let them pay for it through subscription, because I see no benefit to those that don't use it.
Jingoistic Falklands war coverage by Brian "I counted them all out, I counted them all back" Hanrahan ? Our Navy suffered massively with Exocet missiles provided by France, but the BBC never publicised just how close the UK to losing that war/conflict.

Thank you FH, someone who knows.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Jul 23 5.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It’s not me that says it though is it?

It’s the report that says it. Despite the persistent claims to the contrary.

Those claiming later to have known must have those claims treated with caution. All that is relevant is whether anyone reported suspicions to management at the time, whether employees, parents or the abused. It appears that this didn’t happen in any way to cause any kind of investigation to be undertaken.

That this now seems both incredible and unacceptable is true and the strongest of reasons for the procedures to be improved.

You think Teddy’s head hurts? Imagine mine with the level of obdurate misunderstanding of the actual facts involved.

The persistent repetition of lies often results in people thinking them to be true. Certain tabloids do this all the time and I suspect it’s in play here.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (15 Jul 2023 2.31pm)

And where is the evidence for any of this?
The contention is that the BBC is the envy of the world.
Here's another suggestion: the BBC is seen around the world as an organisation which enabled an unknown number of child molesters and abusers to carry on for decades but never mind because they show repeats of forty year old programmes.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jul 23 6.01pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Unfortunetly not, its my anniversary today, so, out the Q?

Of your release or your season ticket

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 23 6.10pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Of your release or your season ticket

PMSL.

Don't have an ST now im out of the UK(well, not atm) & as for release, im a lifer. Oh well.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 23 6.33pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The BBC can be funded by subscription. Many other services are, and they are successful.
The BBC has morphed over time from a once world-beating news outlet, and pioneering TV maker, into a massively over-resourced entity that its overpaid employees benefit very well from the current financing system.
Cheap sports, CGI kids programmes, reality TV, cooking shows all pander to the lowest common denominator. Let them pay for it through subscription, because I see no benefit to those that don't use it.
Jingoistic Falklands war coverage by Brian "I counted them all out, I counted them all back" Hanrahan ? Our Navy suffered massively with Exocet missiles provided by France, but the BBC never publicised just how close the UK to losing that war/conflict.

It might surprise you to know air have no objection to the BBC stopping making any “entertainment”hows or putting them onto a separate subscription basis. It’s the news, current affairs, investigative reporting, science and education, particularly children’s, that concern me. So long as the “entertainment “ type can either be provided by the BBC or elsewhere free to the elderly.

I want them to do what they do best, free of government interference.

We certainly took some loses because of the Exocets ( I can clearly recall where I was and the shock I felt when the Sheffield was hit) but I don’t think we ever came close to losing the war. Once we got those boots on the ground it was always only a matter of time.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays Flag 15 Jul 23 6.44pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The BBC can be funded by subscription. Many other services are, and they are successful.
The BBC has morphed over time from a once world-beating news outlet, and pioneering TV maker, into a massively over-resourced entity that its overpaid employees benefit very well from the current financing system.
Cheap sports, CGI kids programmes, reality TV, cooking shows all pander to the lowest common denominator. Let them pay for it through subscription, because I see no benefit to those that don't use it.
Jingoistic Falklands war coverage by Brian "I counted them all out, I counted them all back" Hanrahan ? Our Navy suffered massively with Exocet missiles provided by France, but the BBC never publicised just how close the UK to losing that war/conflict.

Yep, if they had sunk HMS Hermes or HMS Invincible it would have been impractical.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jul 2023 6.46pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 23 7.12pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And where is the evidence for any of this?
The contention is that the BBC is the envy of the world.
Here's another suggestion: the BBC is seen around the world as an organisation which enabled an unknown number of child molesters and abusers to carry on for decades but never mind because they show repeats of forty year old programmes.

The evidence for the lack of action by management over Savile is in the links that you provided.

Evidence for my contention that the BBC is the envy of the world, sufficient to satisfy me if no one else, is found in my own experiences when travelling.

Finding evidence to satisfy you isn’t so easy as, so far as I know, no one does world surveys. There’s more available about attitudes in the USA than elsewhere. You may find these useful:-

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You might also enjoy this which, though not directly related to the BBC’s international reach and trustworthiness, nevertheless expresses my own sentiments.

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I don’t read anything in any of them which suggests that trust in the BBC internationally has declined because it is seen in the way you assert. There is no evidence at all that it is seen that way.

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 15 Jul 23 7.22pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Unfortunetly not, its my anniversary today, so, out the Q?

Congratulations to you both, me old mucker

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 23 7.23pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It might surprise you to know air have no objection to the BBC stopping making any “entertainment”hows or putting them onto a separate subscription basis. It’s the news, current affairs, investigative reporting, science and education, particularly children’s, that concern me. So long as the “entertainment “ type can either be provided by the BBC or elsewhere free to the elderly.

I want them to do what they do best, free of government interference.

We certainly took some loses because of the Exocets ( I can clearly recall where I was and the shock I felt when the Sheffield was hit) but I don’t think we ever came close to losing the war. Once we got those boots on the ground it was always only a matter of time.

Not half as much as I did, I was on her.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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