Oh for a world of black and white where blame is easily and fairly and accurately targeted.

I don't think you are being realistic or fair.

Before you put people in jail guilt has to be clearly established. Perhaps at some point in life you yourself will be thankful of that fact.

People sometimes sully the name of justice because it rarely produces the 'good and evil' outcomes that they want to see...and when this happens they aren't being realistic.

Often justice is a reflection of life....which is often grey and not black and white. If something can't be proven you don't give people to the mob outside.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2017 8.43am)

On a lighter note, some people made very good money on the cheaper non fireproof cladding,very good money!

I too am a bit worried at the anger on the ground and (unbelievably) have some sympathy with May not talking directly with the families. She would have needed an army of Police around her, they are irate and will get more so.

I'm not surprised. People have been watching that tower block for a few days now, and the shock will have worn off. I suspect a lot of people may be thinking like me, that fire was the worst they've seen in their lifetime (at least in a residential fire) and that they've not seen a building burn like that except in footage from the Blitz.

And that's what I was thinking, yesterday, when did I last see a blaze like that, one that went up so quickly and trapped so many people. There have been a few warehouse fires etc that have been fierce, but a block of flats, I can't remember seeing that kind of intense, fast spreading blaze that completely gutted through entire floors.

I wouldn't be surprised to see riots in the coming days if something exceptionally damning comes out.

I liked donald sterling, was very good indeed, in the apprentice! Even sir alan took him off when we copied the show! Was thinking the other day i bet donald, with more privacy, to mingle,,,would be a lot happier in life !Iknow i would,,,ladys to chat to, booze every night, tv, privacy, and a wake up call when you wana wake up!