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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Jun 17 8.41am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

You're right. Profit-making and keeping the shareholders happy, always comes before basic health and safety these days. 'Cut corners and then cut further corners again' culture is alive and thriving.

What you refer to is a problem everywhere in the world. Aside from good regulation I'm not sure what can be done about it.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 17 8.53am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Oh for a world of black and white where blame is easily and fairly and accurately targeted.

I don't think you are being realistic or fair.

Before you put people in jail guilt has to be clearly established. Perhaps at some point in life you yourself will be thankful of that fact.

People sometimes sully the name of justice because it rarely produces the 'good and evil' outcomes that they want to see...and when this happens they aren't being realistic.

Often justice is a reflection of life....which is often grey and not black and white. If something can't be proven you don't give people to the mob outside.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2017 8.43am)

Even deportations?

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Even deportations?

Even deportations should involve a judge yes.
Some people just don't read.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2017 8.57am)

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Jun 17 8.57am

On a lighter note, some people made very good money on the cheaper non fireproof cladding,very good money!

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 16 Jun 17 8.57am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

If its a warm weekend as predicted, and more comes out about people being told they will be evicted for reporting health and safety issues, and more about the conservative chief not doing anything as housing minister for 4 years about safety,,,,,i can see this turning nasty,hope not in respect of the fallen, but hot weather is always a precurser to a riot, and if the details keep coming out,,as they are,,im steering clear of ladbroke grove! Sky also reported the panels used were flamable,,,the non flamable ones were £2 dearer,,,the entire cost of the dearer non flamable ones over the whole building was £5000 pounds,,,,unbelievable! unbelievable! Thats trump styly,,,styly,,,,,,,,,,

Sky also reported on Wednesday that we were in talks with Pellegrini.

Lots of guesswork and sensationalism at the moment. It may well be counter productive when it comes to the Public Enquiry

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Jun 17 9.02am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

On a lighter note, some people made very good money on the cheaper non fireproof cladding,very good money!

Yeah, no doubt that was Donald Trump's fault.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Jun 17 9.02am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Sky also reported on Wednesday that we were in talks with Pellegrini.

Lots of guesswork and sensationalism at the moment. It may well be counter productive when it comes to the Public Enquiry

I too am a bit worried at the anger on the ground and (unbelievably) have some sympathy with May not talking directly with the families. She would have needed an army of Police around her, they are irate and will get more so.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Jun 17 9.12am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I too am a bit worried at the anger on the ground and (unbelievably) have some sympathy with May not talking directly with the families. She would have needed an army of Police around her, they are irate and will get more so.

If the people watch the news and the weather hots up i think its a melting pot, and i dont dislike theresa either, seems like a nice lady, just a bit of a business greedy im ok jack party,,,and dont get me on the foxhunting thing....lets kill an innocent animal for fun...rip it apart,,and maybe cum in your pants,,,,mhmmm, sounds good!

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Jun 17 9.25am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I too am a bit worried at the anger on the ground and (unbelievably) have some sympathy with May not talking directly with the families. She would have needed an army of Police around her, they are irate and will get more so.

I'm not surprised. People have been watching that tower block for a few days now, and the shock will have worn off. I suspect a lot of people may be thinking like me, that fire was the worst they've seen in their lifetime (at least in a residential fire) and that they've not seen a building burn like that except in footage from the Blitz.

And that's what I was thinking, yesterday, when did I last see a blaze like that, one that went up so quickly and trapped so many people. There have been a few warehouse fires etc that have been fierce, but a block of flats, I can't remember seeing that kind of intense, fast spreading blaze that completely gutted through entire floors.

I wouldn't be surprised to see riots in the coming days if something exceptionally damning comes out.

 


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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 16 Jun 17 9.31am Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I'm not surprised. People have been watching that tower block for a few days now, and the shock will have worn off. I suspect a lot of people may be thinking like me, that fire was the worst they've seen in their lifetime (at least in a residential fire) and that they've not seen a building burn like that except in footage from the Blitz.

And that's what I was thinking, yesterday, when did I last see a blaze like that, one that went up so quickly and trapped so many people. There have been a few warehouse fires etc that have been fierce, but a block of flats, I can't remember seeing that kind of intense, fast spreading blaze that completely gutted through entire floors.

I wouldn't be surprised to see riots in the coming days if something exceptionally damning comes out.

So what good are riots going to achieve...yes there is rightly massive anger at what's happened.
So rioting looting setting fire to other people's property is going to help.
Innocent people's lives (the same who perished in the fire) are going to suffer.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Jun 17 9.33am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, no doubt that was Donald Trump's fault.

I liked donald sterling, was very good indeed, in the apprentice! Even sir alan took him off when we copied the show! Was thinking the other day i bet donald, with more privacy, to mingle,,,would be a lot happier in life !Iknow i would,,,ladys to chat to, booze every night, tv, privacy, and a wake up call when you wana wake up!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Jun 17 9.37am

Originally posted by croydon proud

I liked donald sterling, was very good indeed, in the apprentice! Even sir alan took him off when we copied the show! Was thinking the other day i bet donald, with more privacy, to mingle,,,would be a lot happier in life !Iknow i would,,,ladys to chat to, booze every night, tv, privacy, and a wake up call when you wana wake up!

Sorry, stirling. i ment stirling, not sterling..my bad...my bad,,, in true don..........

 

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