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silvertop Flag Portishead 05 Jul 20 9.15pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

100% agree with this. We have been skating on thin ice all season. Lots of people crying and moaning about team selection and lack of subs but not one of them has come up with a better alternative.

I disagree. For our first season up I never feared for our safety.

Next season on the other hand. Only so long you can wing it with dads army.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Jul 20 9.50pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Not this crap again about him but being backed again.

Parish's biggest mistake at the moment is sticking buy that washed up dinosaur.

He's has had quality players in and barely used them. Reiedwald, Camarassa, Mayer, Sorloth all not getting a look in. AWB wouldnt have had a chance if it weren't for the fact we run out of other options.

Wickham came on, scored vs Norwich and forced an own goal v City then shipped off on loan.

A mangers biggest concern should be recruited, Roy avoids getting involved so he can have an excuse.

Pierrek contributed to the build up of the goal against Norwich then didn't get a look in again. When he got 8 minutes vs Liverpool at 4-0 down, Woy suddenly thought that he should be bought a bottle of wine for letting him have the opportunity.

We're on relegation form at the moment. If nothing changes then we will go down next season. More depressingly, we'll pay to get served up the same old s***. Roy will never change. He's got to go.

We've got the 9th highest wage bill in the league, a team of decent players who arent used to their strengths. Or tactic of sticking everyone behind the ball and hoping the Wilf does something special isn't working.

3 holding midfielders that barely make a tackle and cant pass.

1 goal from 150 corners yet he still insist 6'2 luka should take them.

We never play an early ball to Benteke, whys he never at the far post for set peice either, everyone knows that's where we are going to stick it.

There must be a correlation between lack of subs and injuries.

Yeah, huge mistake by Parish sticking by a manager that kept us up against the odds in his first season, and has kept the club in the Premier League to date.

Quality players not used ? - Meyer hasn't set the world on fire and yet people like you seem to see a player that has so far failed to establish himself and lay the blame with the manager. Did you ever see Sorloth play ? - He was crap no two ways about it. Jairo I grant you looks decent but we already have plenty of similar players - what difference is he truly going to make ? Camarassa ? - dunno, that was a strange one.

Wickham - looked like a pub player. Getting his fitness back on loan and quite rightly so. He was never going to be the answer to our goalscoring problems.

The manager being involved in recruitment - do you seriously think that the manager '' avoids being involved '' ? - Jeez get a grip and start to understand how football works these days.

'' Relegation form at the moment '' - totally agree. Luckily just a couple of weeks ago our form suggested we could compete for a European spot.

Wage bill ? - Do you think Hodgson agrees players wages ??

Taking corners - well my preference is for the best strikers of a dead ball and I don't think Luka has a big reputation as a header of the ball. ( cue Harry Kane comments ! )

Hodgson isn't perfect and I can't defend the quality of play offered beyond the fact that it serves it's purpose.

But seriously, don't lay the blame for everything on him because it simply doesn't stack up.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 05 Jul 20 10.01pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

Yeah, huge mistake by Parish sticking by a manager that kept us up against the odds in his first season, and has kept the club in the Premier League to date.

Quality players not used ? - Meyer hasn't set the world on fire and yet people like you seem to see a player that has so far failed to establish himself and lay the blame with the manager. Did you ever see Sorloth play ? - He was crap no two ways about it. Jairo I grant you looks decent but we already have plenty of similar players - what difference is he truly going to make ? Camarassa ? - dunno, that was a strange one.

Wickham - looked like a pub player. Getting his fitness back on loan and quite rightly so. He was never going to be the answer to our goalscoring problems.

The manager being involved in recruitment - do you seriously think that the manager '' avoids being involved '' ? - Jeez get a grip and start to understand how football works these days.

'' Relegation form at the moment '' - totally agree. Luckily just a couple of weeks ago our form suggested we could compete for a European spot.

Wage bill ? - Do you think Hodgson agrees players wages ??

Taking corners - well my preference is for the best strikers of a dead ball and I don't think Luka has a big reputation as a header of the ball. ( cue Harry Kane comments ! )

Hodgson isn't perfect and I can't defend the quality of play offered beyond the fact that it serves it's purpose.

But seriously, don't lay the blame for everything on him because it simply doesn't stack up.

Each to their own, that’s what opinions are about. We’ll never know whether another manager would have done better with the same group of players as they will be drawing their pension by the time we get a new manager.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Jul 20 10.12pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Each to their own, that’s what opinions are about. We’ll never know whether another manager would have done better with the same group of players as they will be drawing their pension by the time we get a new manager.

Appreciate your well reasoned response.

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 06 Jul 20 9.53am

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

So take Liverpool out of the equation, we are the second lowest spenders at about 5.5m. Its bloody miracle we are not down there with Norwich.

Another miserly transfer window and we most definately will be.

Is that not testament to how well Roy has done?

Those calling for him to resign or be sacked are batty.

That said, ask him to field the same team next season and even he won't be able to perform the miracle he has this season.

 

jeeagles Flag 06 Jul 20 10.04am

Originally posted by NEILLO

Yeah, huge mistake by Parish sticking by a manager that kept us up against the odds in his first season, and has kept the club in the Premier League to date.

Quality players not used ? - Meyer hasn't set the world on fire and yet people like you seem to see a player that has so far failed to establish himself and lay the blame with the manager. Did you ever see Sorloth play ? - He was crap no two ways about it. Jairo I grant you looks decent but we already have plenty of similar players - what difference is he truly going to make ? Camarassa ? - dunno, that was a strange one.

Wickham - looked like a pub player. Getting his fitness back on loan and quite rightly so. He was never going to be the answer to our goalscoring problems.

The manager being involved in recruitment - do you seriously think that the manager '' avoids being involved '' ? - Jeez get a grip and start to understand how football works these days.

'' Relegation form at the moment '' - totally agree. Luckily just a couple of weeks ago our form suggested we could compete for a European spot.

Wage bill ? - Do you think Hodgson agrees players wages ??

Taking corners - well my preference is for the best strikers of a dead ball and I don't think Luka has a big reputation as a header of the ball. ( cue Harry Kane comments ! )

Hodgson isn't perfect and I can't defend the quality of play offered beyond the fact that it serves it's purpose.

But seriously, don't lay the blame for everything on him because it simply doesn't stack up.

Fair enough, but I don't think the claim of keeping us in the premiership "against the odds" or "on a shoe string" is correct.

I would expect a manager in any industry to be getting involved in every detail of the running of their team. Especially when it comes to who's in the personel are, and roughly what wages they are on.

Corners are a side issue, but a stat was raised on Saturday that we've scored 1 goal from 150 corners. We continually seem to get Luka to take them and aim them towards Tompkins on the far post. PVA has a fairly decent set peice on him and he's 5'8, after 150 corner attepts give someone else a go?

Admittately Sorloth looked awful, but so did Reidewald in his first game of his recent run in the team. Players need game time, and why have two strikers shipped out on loan when Benteke is our only option. Surely it must be helpful to at least have an option of bringing them on with 10 minutes to go when you need to chase a game.

I keep saying, Roy's not awful, but managers like him and Pardew, BFS, Pulis, Hughes and Bruce are all pretty limited, not long term solutions. Hodgson's had a decent run, but it wont recover from here. If the board need to invest, he's not the manager to give money too.

 

johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 06 Jul 20 11.20am

My brother,much as we both try we can't agrue with stupid, listening to Roy after saturdays game his assemment was spot on. all this blame steve roy sack the board spend gazillions of money which we haven't got on puffed up primadonas is exactly what we shouldn't and won't do. Under Steve we have brought back the club from extentiction improved the squad stayed in the loadmazolla league. (to steel a phrase from 'Jamesy' improved the trainning ground. What do people expect barcel-fxxking-lona. The is Palace the ragamuffins of croydon n penge ffs.

Originally posted by silvertop

Is that not testament to how well Roy has done?

Those calling for him to resign or be sacked are batty.

That said, ask him to field the same team next season and even he won't be able to perform the miracle he has this season.

 

Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 06 Jul 20 11.57am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Hairdressers now being formally reopened, I'm sure that SP can mull over this tricky dilemma with his while having a quick trim.

Like our transfer negotiations those words do not go together.

Edited by Booted Eagle (06 Jul 2020 11.57am)

 


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palace chick Flag South Croydon 06 Jul 20 12.11pm

These Hodgson in or out responses are just going round in circles. It isn’t so much him but rather what’s been mentioned “a dads army squad” That’s what needs a major overhaul - with a younger squad Hodgson will be able to do what he’s done whilst in charge and that’s to keep us up - even then, it will take some blending in as the turnover Of players needs to be huge. No one will keep this old squad up next season without this overhaul. But, Hodgson may be the best bet to do it?

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 06 Jul 20 12.12pm

Slightly off topic but I just realised the transfer window is not open and a date has not yet been set.

So all these threads about why haven't we signed this player yet is because we can't. That doesn't mean though that a players contracts can't expire and he can leave the club he just has to wait before signing with his new one.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Jul 20 12.24pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Slightly off topic but I just realised the transfer window is not open and a date has not yet been set.

So all these threads about why haven't we signed this player yet is because we can't. That doesn't mean though that a players contracts can't expire and he can leave the club he just has to wait before signing with his new one.

My understanding is that the 'Transfer Window' will open when the season ends, 26 July, but there is no official confirmation as to when it will close.

Edited by Willo (06 Jul 2020 12.24pm)

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 06 Jul 20 12.32pm

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

My brother,much as we both try we can't agrue with stupid, listening to Roy after saturdays game his assemment was spot on. all this blame steve roy sack the board spend gazillions of money which we haven't got on puffed up primadonas is exactly what we shouldn't and won't do. Under Steve we have brought back the club from extentiction improved the squad stayed in the loadmazolla league. (to steel a phrase from 'Jamesy' improved the trainning ground. What do people expect barcel-fxxking-lona. The is Palace the ragamuffins of croydon n penge ffs.

I’d suggest you learn to write properly before calling people stupid, even more so when you’re arguing against a point no one is making.

Believe it or not, there is a range of quality between the s***e we serve up and Barcelona.


 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 06 Jul 20 12.47pm

Originally posted by dave4343palace

I’m afraid that the 100% stark reality is that the only way we can play attractive/attacking football AND stay in the Premier is to have new owners who will invest hundreds of millions into the squad. The sad fact is that the only type of manager/coach that could currently dream of getting enough points for us to stay up (let alone achieve our current miraculous tally) is a wily old head like Roy, Alladyce or Pulis who can grind out results however they have to and get an aging and tiny squad (many of which are Championship standard) to overachieve on regular basis.

DeBoer was perceived as the dream ticket and we’d have been relegated by Christmas unless Roy had come in.

Bournemouth spent a fortune this season on players and will be a Championship side next season. There is no way in the world our owners will take such a risk, so the only answer is for us to pray for a sugar daddy or to accept that what we have now is the absolute best we will ever get in the current set-up and try and enjoy it.

I don’t know how many times I’ve posted this on this thread: we have stayed up ourselves, numerous times over the past few years, playing infinitely better football than we do now. Every single season, the teams who finish 10th-17th have comparable budgets to us, and 90% of those play better football than we do now. Call that 6 or 7 teams a season, over 7 seasons, and you’re talking the best part of 50 teams.

This season we’ve turned out, by any statistical measure, is one of the dullest you would ever see at this level (assuming you see goals scored and chances created as entertaining).

Why is it unrealistic to think we could achieve something we, and countless others, already have done on a similar budget?

Those defending Hodgson seem to have invented this straw man argument that we want gun ho football and the only alternative to what we do now is to play suicide football. I haven’t seen anyone suggesting that.


On a separate point; judging spending based on a single transfer window (or even season) in isolation is pretty pointless - Liverpool spent nothing this year, but have racked up £300m in the 2 years prior, so the total spend across the last few years is still very high. You don’t just sign a player for one year.

Similarly, we might have spent little of late, but we had a few year spell where we were amongst the highest spenders outside of the top 8. This idea that our team is so much weaker than our competitors is pure fantasy, and only used to defend an illogical position that Hodgson is working miracles.


 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Jul 20 1.02pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Slightly off topic but I just realised the transfer window is not open and a date has not yet been set.

So all these threads about why haven't we signed this player yet is because we can't. That doesn't mean though that a players contracts can't expire and he can leave the club he just has to wait before signing with his new one.

You are correct about Transfer Window, a new opening date has yet to be set. As for contracts, all player contracts end on 30th June, some players(not all) whose contracts ended on the 30th have signed 'short-term' extensions to continuing to play for their respective clubs. Quite a few have refused & are therefore in 'limbo' till the new TW opens

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Jul 20 1.13pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I don’t know how many times I’ve posted this on this thread: we have stayed up ourselves, numerous times over the past few years, playing infinitely better football than we do now. Every single season, the teams who finish 10th-17th have comparable budgets to us, and 90% of those play better football than we do now. Call that 6 or 7 teams a season, over 7 seasons, and you’re talking the best part of 50 teams.

This season we’ve turned out, by any statistical measure, is one of the dullest you would ever see at this level (assuming you see goals scored and chances created as entertaining).

Why is it unrealistic to think we could achieve something we, and countless others, already have done on a similar budget?

Those defending Hodgson seem to have invented this straw man argument that we want gun ho football and the only alternative to what we do now is to play suicide football. I haven’t seen anyone suggesting that.


On a separate point; judging spending based on a single transfer window (or even season) in isolation is pretty pointless - Liverpool spent nothing this year, but have racked up £300m in the 2 years prior, so the total spend across the last few years is still very high. You don’t just sign a player for one year.

Similarly, we might have spent little of late, but we had a few year spell where we were amongst the highest spenders outside of the top 8. This idea that our team is so much weaker than our competitors is pure fantasy, and only used to defend an illogical position that Hodgson is working miracles.


And I haven't seen any of those defending Hodgson claiming that '' suicide football '' is an alternative.

What I have seen is people pointing out that the previous attempts to play more expansive football - under Pardew and De Boer hasn't ended well.

Your point about our expenditure doesn't allow for the fact that most of that spend was pre Hodgson. So it would be true to say that he has been operating on a shoestring budget in comparison to the clubs around us.

I don't believe has has been working miracles but he has done a fine job under the circumstances.

 


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PatrickA Flag London 06 Jul 20 1.21pm

100% agree with EverybodyDannsNow.
But I recognise that its futile to attempt to show evidence to satisfy his worshippers that Hodgson is anything other than a miracle worker and legend.
He did a decent job in his first season but I would not trust him to with young or inexperienced players that we are apparently trying to attract in the summer.
And nobody has being able to explain why he's kept Luka on corners for so long, how his defensive substitutions are designed to get us back in the game when we are losing and why we are so defensive at home against poor teams.

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 06 Jul 20 1.36pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

And I haven't seen any of those defending Hodgson claiming that '' suicide football '' is an alternative.

What I have seen is people pointing out that the previous attempts to play more expansive football - under Pardew and De Boer hasn't ended well.

Your point about our expenditure doesn't allow for the fact that most of that spend was pre Hodgson. So it would be true to say that he has been operating on a shoestring budget in comparison to the clubs around us.

I don't believe has has been working miracles but he has done a fine job under the circumstances.

Quite literally the post I replied to said “the 100% stark reality is that the only way we can play attractive/attacking football AND stay in the premier is to invest hundreds of millions”. If the barometer is playing like Man City, that might be true.

I want to distinguish between expansive and entertaining - entertaining football doesn’t have to be expansive; there are a lot of direct teams who’s plan is getting the ball forward quickly and overload with crosses.. this can be exciting without ever being expansive. We are neither, for clarity.

It doesn’t matter when it was spent, it’s indicative of the quality of the squad. Our squad is as good, if not better, than most of the bottom half.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Jul 20 1.42pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Quite literally the post I replied to said “the 100% stark reality is that the only way we can play attractive/attacking football AND stay in the premier is to invest hundreds of millions”. If the barometer is playing like Man City, that might be true.

I want to distinguish between expansive and entertaining - entertaining football doesn’t have to be expansive; there are a lot of direct teams who’s plan is getting the ball forward quickly and overload with crosses.. this can be exciting without ever being expansive. We are neither, for clarity.

It doesn’t matter when it was spent, it’s indicative of the quality of the squad. Our squad is as good, if not better, than most of the bottom half.

I am not convinced about this at all.
We have an ageing squad in the twilight of their careers.

 

deetee Flag 06 Jul 20 1.51pm

Yes Roy has done a great job. Sadly now we are losing to crap sides as well as being boring. Get Dyche in

 

southnorwoodhill Flag 06 Jul 20 1.53pm

Originally posted by palace chick

These Hodgson in or out responses are just going round in circles. It isn’t so much him but rather what’s been mentioned “a dads army squad” That’s what needs a major overhaul - with a younger squad Hodgson will be able to do what he’s done whilst in charge and that’s to keep us up - even then, it will take some blending in as the turnover Of players needs to be huge. No one will keep this old squad up next season without this overhaul. But, Hodgson may be the best bet to do it?

Oh I don't know - RH plays the pompous, blustering Mainwaring to perfection

 

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